Opinions:Losing the ABS

[Charlvdw]

To loose or not to loose?

[300sx]

whats to gain by losing it?

[Charlvdw]

Space and weight . Mainly space. How well does it work anyway?

[300sx]

hehe.. does not work bad considering its vintage ,was cutting edge when new.. calibration goes out a bit when you stray too far from from the original rim/tyre and brake combos.. dont forget the main advantage of abs is to allow you to manoeuver while braking at max deceleration, because it eliminates slip.. which also mostly gives shorter braking distances.

i could support the argument for space, but weightwise i dont think its worth the effort removing it
i actually relocated my abs when i needed the space instead of removing it..

my 2c

ps.
i remember posting this read some time ago.. interesting read on what abs actually does for you..


http://200sx.za.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.ph ... s&start=30

[Charlvdw]

hehe.. does not work bad considering its vintage ,was cutting edge when new.. calibration goes out a bit when you stray too far from from the original rim/tyre and brake combos.. dont forget the main advantage of abs is to allow you to manoeuver while braking at max deceleration, because it eliminates slip.. which also mostly gives shorter braking distances.

i could support the argument for space, but weightwise i dont think its worth the effort removing it
i actually relocated my abs when i needed the space instead of removing it..

my 2c

ps.
i remember posting this read some time ago.. interesting read on what abs actually does for you..


http://200sx.za.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.ph ... s&start=30

So your sx still have abs then?

[Guy]

For a car seeing any use on the road, I'd keep it, it just makes that much difference to safety, especially in the wet.

I'd only consider removing it on a car that is only gonna ever see use on a track. And my track 200sx will still have abs.

[Charlvdw]

Interesting, thanx.

[hentiebez]

if you got coilovers lose the abs, way to dangerous.

[rat]

if you got coilovers lose the abs, way to dangerous.

mine is also going

[poizen]

my s13 is fitted with abs and coiloversw and still work perfectly even over heavy bumped areas so its totaly up to you

[Guy]

if you got coilovers lose the abs, way to dangerous.

Please justify that.

There is no way having coilovers and abs can make a car dangerous. If it is dangerous with coilovers then there is something else fundamentally wrong.

[hentiebez]

ABS is more dependant on suspension that brake disks due to stiff suspension easily being able to lift up a wheel on uneven ground. Because with the added stiffness and reduced travel of the coil overs you can unload one wheel very easily, if you do this while trying to stop it will kick the ABS in and you litteraly will take about 30 times longer to stop.

New cars with adaptable valve per wheel abs with ebd its not bad at all, but our old school donkey ABS it could be your life on the line.

[poizen]

very true but how long is your wheel off the ground for 1sec even 0.5sec nothing that will see any damage

[Guy]

Well if you're unloading or lifting a wheel while in an emergency braking situation you've lost traction on that wheel. So I'd rather have the abs working and still be able to steer around whatever you're avoiding rather than sliding or spinning into it.

Possibly the problem is chaep chinese coilovers that aren't suited to road use, especially if they're set up with no droop as you describe. That'll also cause horrible ride quality and some funny weight transfer issues while cornering.

Once again none of this is the fault of the abs. If you have a half decent suspension set up you'll be keeping all the wheels on the ground all the time. Remeber this is a front engined rear wheel drive car.

Race suspension set up on golfs and other fwd things are totally different, they will often want to cock a rear wheel up just to get the car to turn and not understeer.

[300sx]

@ charl, yeah i still have mine in, just relocated it because i needed the space.. (arrow at the bottom)

ultimately up to you i guess..