Help/wisdom needed - Rebuild to start soon

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:25 pm

You mean R4000- R6000....

Speed breeder · Post by **Speed breeder** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:37 pm

Who is your engineer? But wait, don't your motors still break?

Rezlo · Post by **Rezlo** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:55 pm

Damm I charge R5000 to build a complete motor!!

Biggest problems with engineering shops is that 99% of them have never worked on motors like this, so unless you drum it into them to use ure supplied specifications your stuffed.

Vlade · Post by **Vlade** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:19 pm

Draco wrote:You mean R4000- R6000....

No man it cheap... like under R1k bottom end is quick... that excludes engineering work that needs to be done, only assembly, complete complete complete they also charge a few 1000 rands...

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:46 pm

O ok...never knew that, I know the honing and skeeming is not to bad....but the rebuild.....

Sokar · Post by **Sokar** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:21 pm

Quick quote from Richie Jute in JHB as I'm re-building my M20 (Beemer Motor) and have been phoning around.

Head Recon R 800
Sparkplug Helicoil R 120
Crank Metal Stitch R 250
Conrod Resize R 80
Block Rebore R 525
Crank Regrind R 525
Assemble Sub Assembly (3 Month Guarantee) R 850

Prices arent bad, they are in the norm of most engineering places, but thats just to give you an idea, rather call your own engineering place, for R850 and a 3 month guarantee its almost not worth assembling it yourself. Maybe its different with a CA as its a bit specialised, but they say they do about 10 of my BMW motors a month, so they know how to work on them.

johansx · Post by **johansx** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:59 pm

The only engineering shop that touch my engines are Alan Y Brink in Pta. They do all the Nissan Motor Sport engines and have plenty SR experience. The produced the 210kw SR20 NA touring cars engines from a few years back, remember? Nissan dominated for 4 years? My SR is still going perfect after 43000km, my 4x4 L28 7000rpm motor is still perfect after almost 60 000km mostly off road.

I gladly pay the little extra

Vlade · Post by **Vlade** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:13 am

Allan Y Brink did the engineering on my motor that Duane built... They did a fantastic job, and I would use them again for full engine engineering.

I'm just having it honed by someone else this time for convenience sake.

Charl · Post by **Charl** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:39 am

i would say you can uses this as a learning experience. you could strip the engine your self, source the parts your self as well, there is a learning curve there too, then take it to an engineering shop to assemble e.g allan y brink.

speaking of, depending on the power your looking to make, i've got a 1st undersize crank (straightend, key way done, thrust repaired virtually a brand new crank) with bearings to sell

this was all done by allan y brink

qewrty · Post by **qewrty** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:51 pm

Charl wrote:i would say you can uses this as a learning experience. you could strip the engine your self, source the parts your self as well, there is a learning curve there too, then take it to an engineering shop to assemble e.g allan y brink.

Allan Y brink also has a few cars in the nationals..hmm...

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:54 pm

The top fuel dragsters they had at the mad dog opening were all ingenered by allen se ma brink

Speed breeder · Post by **Speed breeder** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:12 pm

What's Allan's number... So I can enquire.

This sounds like a rebuild will work out to about R20k.
R4 500 CP pistons.
R1 400 ARP studs.
R1 200 gasket.
R1 400 gasket set.
Acl Bearings?
R6 500 Rods - if I replace them
R4 500 - R6 000 Engineering (no fancy footwork)

And it might still break...

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:53 am

Speed breeder wrote:

And it might still break...

Lifes a bitch aint it

Vlade · Post by **Vlade** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:07 am

You can budget R2500 for engineering....

Do your self a favor balance the stuff... I don't believe in unnecessary lightening stuff, it robs you of torque

Allan Y Brink
012 335 0886

Speed breeder · Post by **Speed breeder** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:25 pm

Thanks for everyone's assistance... I will need to make a call now.

Especially thanks to QWERTY for providing me with an invaluable asset...