bent Tie rods

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:32 am

so i take the bent tie rod out of my vehicle and stick it in the vice and bend it all nice and straight!!!

i thought to myself "it looks good, i'll install it, and go for a test drive"

so i did... and all was well!!! so i got ready to go drift practice. even arrived there early, dressed warmly and quite well prepared.

went out on the track slowly at first, just checking everything out. all seemed well.

so i went a little faster and initiated a few small slides. seemed ok.

so then i went at the normal pace, and on a longish supersideways slide, i felt something give, i then spun out, and then i realised that i couldnt steer.

that damn rod bent again.

i couldnt bend it straight at the track, so we adjusted it as close as possible to straight, and i drove home slowly.

so the technical question/comment is, is a bent tie rod not re-useable?

should i have used heat to treat it before straightening it???

and i've heard recently that the tie rod from a hilux bakkie fits, and is a lot thicker and stronger!!! and costs less than R100 bucks new!!! (i'll def find out about this).

The Calibrator · Post by **The Calibrator** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:45 am

veecee wrote:so i take the bent tie rod out of my vehicle and stick it in the vice and bend it all nice and straight!!!

i thought to myself "it looks good, i'll install it, and go for a test drive"

so i did... and all was well!!! so i got ready to go drift practice. even arrived there early, dressed warmly and quite well prepared.

went out on the track slowly at first, just checking everything out. all seemed well.

so i went a little faster and initiated a few small slides. seemed ok.

so then i went at the normal pace, and on a longish supersideways slide, i felt something give, i then spun out, and then i realised that i couldnt steer.

that damn rod bent again.

i couldnt bend it straight at the track, so we adjusted it as close as possible to straight, and i drove home slowly.

so the technical question/comment is, is a bent tie rod not re-useable?

should i have used heat to treat it before straightening it???

and i've heard recently that the tie rod from a hilux bakkie fits, and is a lot thicker and stronger!!! and costs less than R100 bucks new!!! (i'll def find out about this).

Thats a wonderfull way to commit suicide.
Do you know how many bad death dealing accidents I have seen because a straightened tie rod snapped?
The worst one 6 people died when a construction bakkie left the r oad and rolled.

My friends family were thrown out of a Corsa at 120km/h when a straightened part snapped on a used car he was using.
So when I read shit like this I get the horrors and want to smack you upside the head with your tie rod for being stupid
I cannot begin to understand the urge to repair safety critical items

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:52 am

well, i lived.

and i learnt too!!!

so its not a good idea then???

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:54 am

Not if u want the vibrator to klap the living renoster out of u

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:57 am

yeah it seems he doesnt approve.

i really like his subtle approach, hey!!!

oh well...

dont straighten those tie rods dudes!!!

i dont understand why those stupid things are so small and skinny though, makes me wonder about the real strength of the xtrail rear suspension???

jap spec · Post by **jap spec** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:00 am

try invest in a set of tein tie rods and end, much stronger, and more angle...as long as you dont hit nothing, no worries

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:09 am

jap spec wrote:try invest

thats the problem though... i'm definitely one of those empoverished sx owners that calibrator keeps reminding us of!!!

i would love to have a set, and they cost only slightly more than the originals from nissan, but alas... got no mahoolah!!!

the increase angle, never understood that. common sense says that if you increase the length of your tie rods, then you will have increased toe out on the front wheels. am i wrong?

Phinx · Post by **Phinx** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:09 am

Have you tried , Bonus Spares.. .

Maybe you can get tie rods off that thing

Gary57 · Post by **Gary57** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:11 am

Build your own, cant be hard, then you can at least use heavy duty materials.

BTW: If steel gets bend and you straighten it, it is never as strong as before it was bent. So if your seat rails bend fine straighten them, if the tie-rod bends buy new or even better make new ones

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Vlade · Post by **Vlade** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:13 am

Bonus's price will be close to Nissan's that guy is crazy with his prices...

So VC are you now OOA?

Ummm talk to engineering friends, maybe they can built you one, those stuff looks very simple to make...

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:42 am

it would be simple, except for that big ball joint on the inner side of the tie rod.

the ball is pressed into a socket, with 30mm outer edges (big hey?).

other than the ball - it would be simple!

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:45 am

and yeah - i'm OOA till i find rods!

johansx · Post by **johansx** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:59 am

The Nissan 1 Tonner suffers from weak ball joints at increased angles....

http://www.nissan4x4.co.za/forum/forum_ ... 91&KW=heim

Use chrome molly tubing, not water pipe!! You can get the Heim/Rose joints from bearing shops. Remember 1 thing, if it breaks, your insurance may repudiate your claim.

Vlade · Post by **Vlade** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:35 am

I would take my chances with the insurance... one have a very valid argument... "Unless they can prove, without any doubt that the modification was the cause of the accident/incident, they cannot void your claim"

If you get shit, go to the insurance Ombudsman

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:03 am

yeah stupid insurance poepols!

*Nissan 200SX Club - South Africa

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