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Very bad Bearing knock fix or engine replace?

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:45 am
by Captian
Good day all

I have found out yesterday that I have a bearing knock.
The problem is I have had the sound for some time now(almost a year) and fear the worst.

Mech says we can first look from the bottom, dropping the sump.
Could be lucky and just bearings are broken.
But could have gone onto crank. If so he says we need to pull the motor and strip.
My other option is to do an engine swop.

Problem is cash.
For just the bearings from bottom = R2500
Pull engine and fix whole motor = +/- R10000
New Engine(silvertop) with management and clutch = +/- R15000++ (I dont have 15K to spend)

What you say?
am I getting ripped?
Where would you go for this?

Thank you for any help and advice in advance.
Keep Well

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:52 pm
by Daniel
Holy smokes thats alot of dorra!

For a year you say? do you put 10km on the car a year? I don't imagine it lasting very long at all with a bearing knock .

Ever considered doing it yourself with the help of mates?
Most people on here don't get it right 1st time (including myself :oops: ) but the difference for me now is I don't need to do a complete engine rebuild in one weekend anymore as I have a daily now.

I've seen now, taking your time and being careful the CA is actually a super simple engine ( do you have a CA :? )

Just a basic rebuild is pretty cheap spares wise. I'd suggest doing it sooner rather than later to see if you can rescue your crank.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:05 pm
by Captian
Sorry,
Forgot to add what car it is.
It is for my daily runner which is a Toyota Corolla 2002 (RXi shape) and has a 1.6i GLS (4aFe) motor in.


I do about 30000km ++ a year.

Thing is she is still running strong, no power loss etc.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:19 pm
by Grobblere
Hmm get a second opinion

U could just buy a replacement motor for 6500, just replace the motor yourself!

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:28 pm
by Captian
Where would I go look for a motor?
There must be more than one place to go to.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:06 pm
by Grobblere
buy the speed and sound in the back there is hordes of companies, try the junk mail 2. I would rather buy from a company as they tend to give you a startup warranty. Prices varies from R6500-7500

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:20 am
by Captian
Going to fix her up.
To much hasstle to do engine swop to get the car re-registared etc.
Might only be the bearings and crank, so will be less expencive than buying a motor for now.

Thanks for all the help and advice guys.
Will post blog on this.

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:00 pm
by Captian
So we did a compression test yesterday to determine that it is the bearings.

This is done by revving the motor and disconnecting the spark leads one at a time. The fault would lei with the one that would have no knocking sound when disconnected.

It is on the Big-end, but I do suspect that I also have a lifter problem.
Sending the whole head in for engineering to be checked as well as hairline cracks and getting the crank cut.

A lot of cleaning to be done.

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:24 am
by Captian
So we did the stripping.

Enging is shot.
Need all new bearings, pistons, cut crank, rebore block and all the extras to go with that.
Will be R8000+-
I had the option of a import, but you never know what you gonna get.
If we do this motor I will know it has been done perfectly and get another 300'000 on the clock.

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:09 am
by OutOfMyWay
dude, get a black top 4age 20v
the mountings are all the same, you'll probably just need management and an rsi box and CVs
I had a Conquest with a 20v black top in, it was oodles of fun
back in '05 i picked the motor up for only R5000

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:07 pm
by Grobblere
Are you crazy! Wanting to put a Toyota engine in a sx!

Thats like allowing your neighbor slip one in your wive..i cant take these toyota peeps using Nissan bodies..... :lol:

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:23 am
by aep886
that idea is so not good~!

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:19 am
by P3g4sus
Grobblere wrote:Are you crazy! Wanting to put a Toyota engine in a sx!

Thats like allowing your neighbor slip one in your wive..i cant take these toyota peeps using Nissan bodies..... :lol:
aep886 wrote:that idea is so not good~!
Its not for a SX, its for his Corolla....
Captian wrote:Sorry,
Forgot to add what car it is.
It is for my daily runner which is a Toyota Corolla 2002 (RXi shape) and has a 1.6i GLS (4aFe) motor in.


I do about 30000km ++ a year.

Thing is she is still running strong, no power loss etc.

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:31 pm
by aep886
why does he dicuss collora in this forum?

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:13 pm
by Daniel
+1

[quote="Toby - "Forum Guidlines""]...

In the spirit of this club, please note the following guidelines for posting on this forum:
  • Keep posts relevant to the 200SX. This forum is for owners or prospective owners or even ex-owners of the Nissan 200SX.
  • We're here to talk about the 200SX, although we do like to talk about other Nissan sports cars occasionally too :)
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[/quote]

Perhaps we should consider a non-200 area as I have no issue's with people asking for advice but the SX tech section should really only have SX related posts