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18det powa

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:15 pm
by mono
Hey Guys

I have recently acquired a 92 200sx and am now looking at increasing the
powa I would appreciate any input you guys have on these motor like what
kinda powa I can extract from it.

I am gonna redo the motor and fit a bigger turbo. What have you guys used
and what kind of results have you seen.

Any input would be much appreciated .

Thanks

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:43 pm
by WooHaa
I see you're an ex Opel man. welcome to da club. don't forget this months informal meeting. Come along & it will even better to chat.

The first & easiest mods you can do is the exhaust system & filter. This free's up much held back power as the standard one is very restrictive.

I have a full 63mm pipe with an s14 downpipe (straighter then the standard bent one) & a filter. I recommend you go straight to a 76mm exhaust, Front mount intercooler, performance filter.

This alone will free up a couple of KW on the wheels.
Next you can concentrate on the turbo & manifold & some extra boost.

After that I would suggest looking at the computer & & other stuff like, button clutch, lightened fly wheel, stronger engine & gearbox mounts yadda yadda yadda.


We have members here making about 100kw on the wheels & some up to 200KW on the wheels & still iimproving. Have a look at Phinx's low boost article, which is very very good.

Happy motoring & remember, look after your SX as well.

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:48 pm
by WooHaa
Ooopps. Should have read your article first before posting.
If you are re-doing the motor & turbo, then check out Vlade's article. Not the end result, just beginning part (Just jokes dude.)

If I had to re-do the motor, I would get oversized pistons & ceramic coat them & the valves. I will also get stronger conrod & bearings.

I will flow & port the head. Slap on a T3/T4 hybrid, running at least 1bar boost. Full 3inch downpipe & exhaust. very very big intercooler, must fill the entire bumper opening.

Increase full pressure with higher flow fuelpump & get bigger injectors.550cc. XMS Management system.

I would say it would be good for 180KW to 210KW on da wheels...reliably

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:05 pm
by The Calibrator
I would say it would be good for 180KW to 210KW on da wheels...reliably
From a CA18? Seems really optimistic and that T3/T4 is going to be laggy as hell.

Seeing as u are at sea level a GT28RS will work perfectly. It will have almost no lag and will boost close to 1.5 bar if you need it to.
Stay away from the Fong Kong tubular headers and fit a decent intercooler and by that I dont mean the biggest truck core you can find. Also fit a decent COLD air intake and exhaust and either a stand alone or a piggyback.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:43 am
by Vlade
WooHaa wrote:Not the end result, just beginning part (Just jokes dude.)
"Vlade can't decide which method of torture to use on Woohaa"

Agree with Calibrator...

I must say the mod that gave me the best results and I am most thankful for was the exhaust, that really brought the car alive - I'd say get a 3" and at least the same size down pipe... If you keep your stock down pipe and increase the exhaust I don't see how it can help, because you still have that restriction there eating power.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:13 am
by veecee
The Calibrator wrote:that T3/T4 is going to be laggy as hell.
also agree with this statement from calibrator.

i know a really nice s13 setup purely for drifting. has a t3/t4, and makes good strong power (about 180rwkw) but my god, he gets hardly anything at low revs, and then suddenly BAM!!! 180wkw's!!!!

makes it difficult to drive, and very difficult to drift!!!!

go with a smaller ballbearing turbo for sure.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:09 pm
by jon
The T3/T4 comes in many shapes and sizes to suit your needs, have a look at the <a href="http://200sx.za.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=383&start=15" target="_blank">ideal turbo size</a> thread, look for nad_200sx's post near the bottom of the page, very informative.

On the other hand if you have +- 11 grand to throw at a turbo then definitely buy a GT28RS as it's a great turbo for the CA motor.

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:31 pm
by www.MotorCade.co.za
jon wrote:The T3/T4 comes in many shapes and sizes to suit your needs, have a look at the <a href="http://200sx.za.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=383&start=15" target="_blank">ideal turbo size</a> thread, look for nad_200sx's post near the bottom of the page, very informative.

On the other hand if you have +- 11 grand to throw at a turbo then definitely buy a GT28RS as it's a great turbo for the CA motor.
Seems like you guys pay rediculous prices for the Garret BB turbo's.

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:27 pm
by veecee
www.MotorCade.co.za wrote:
jon wrote:The T3/T4 comes in many shapes and sizes to suit your needs, have a look at the <a href="http://200sx.za.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=383&start=15" target="_blank">ideal turbo size</a> thread, look for nad_200sx's post near the bottom of the page, very informative.

On the other hand if you have +- 11 grand to throw at a turbo then definitely buy a GT28RS as it's a great turbo for the CA motor.
Seems like you guys pay rediculous prices for the Garret BB turbo's.
so, mistercade, do let us know what you can offer them for!

let us say, for instance, i wanted a Garrett GT28RS, what would i expect to pay from you?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:00 pm
by WooHaa
Yes, Mr Cade.......How much :)

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:00 am
by The Calibrator
GT28RS $1099 US.
Add shipping import duties and vat and small markup so my children can eat.
Now tell me how much cheaper can you get this? And of course it must be a real Garret not a chinese rip off.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:18 pm
by www.MotorCade.co.za
PM me the exact spec you are looking for, I do not come on here that often.

Although my hart are with you guys my hobby ain't yet :cry:

There are various spec available.

Yes, its geniun.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:01 am
by Vlade
64. AR GT2860RS all the specs you need... Give us the low down

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:19 pm
by mono
Guys wat kinda rods do u guys normally use.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:38 pm
by widowmaker
my own