Discussion of technical issues and ideas (engine, chassis)
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Charlvdw
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by Charlvdw » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:53 am
Excuse my French but i'm lekker gatvol.
I eventually fitted my over priced copper clutch , now its slipping worse then a standard one. Did i do something wrong or is there a trick to it? Should i run it in first?
Enzio
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by Enzio » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:07 pm
Clamping force of the pressure plate should be correct.
Was the pressure plate/flywheel skimmed?
And as with any clutch you should run it in, drive like a civilised person for about 500km and it shuold be ready to go.
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by Riekert » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:21 pm
What he said ^^
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Charlvdw
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by Charlvdw » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:42 pm
Enzio wrote: Clamping force of the pressure plate should be correct.
Was the pressure plate/flywheel skimmed?
And as with any clutch you should run it in, drive like a civilised person for about 500km and it shuold be ready to go.
Jip both were skimmed, well i did about 200km's yesterday mostly civilized.
Enzio
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by Enzio » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:38 pm
Did you re-use your old pressure plate? Did they check that it had the required clamping force?
Also the actual thickness of the clutch should be compared to the old one to make sure the flywheel/clutch plate/pressure plate are at the correct offsets.
But if it's slipping under power it's proably a clamping force problem - that's why the copper clutch I took out was originally slipping. Had it fixed and no more slipping...
S13 CA18DET, NIStune and...oh wait no that's gone.....
Charlvdw
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by Charlvdw » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:49 pm
Enzio wrote: Had it fixed and no more slipping...
How and by whom?
Gary57
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by Gary57 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:51 pm
Copper clutch will slip for up to 700km, leave it be and it will come right.
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by Enzio » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:52 pm
Roadrunner. They relocate the pins holding the pressure plate. The old tabs that the original had on couldn't provide enough force.
Can't remember how much it cost, did it with the whole clutch rebuild.
S13 CA18DET, NIStune and...oh wait no that's gone.....
Charlvdw
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by Charlvdw » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:18 pm
Gary57 wrote: Copper clutch will slip for up to 700km, leave it be and it will come right.
Now thats what i want to hear.
Charlvdw
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by Charlvdw » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:20 pm
Enzio wrote: Roadrunner. They relocate the pins holding the pressure plate. The old tabs that the original had on couldn't provide enough force.
Can't remember how much it cost, did it with the whole clutch rebuild.
Thanx for the advice, ill listen to Gary and hope for the best.
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by Lindt » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:25 pm
check the fingers of the pressureplate, when bolted down they should point outwards, what I've seen before is that the copper clutches are way thicker than a stock one, then when the pressure plate is bolted down it pulls the diafram of the pressure plate inwards, loosing clamping force.
Charlvdw
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by Charlvdw » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:36 pm
The fingers are more or less neutral. I measured the plate thickness and its like ,2mm thicker then the newish std one i took out.
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by Lindt » Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:44 pm
0.2mm isn't too bad, just drive it easy for the first few km's, sould be fine afterwards, if the pressure plate have enough force.
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by Draco » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:56 am
my clutch never slipped, worked fine from day one....then again, I had a double diafram pressure plate.....
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by Charlvdw » Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:03 am
Draco wrote: my clutch never slipped, worked fine from day one....then again, I had a double diafram pressure plate.....
Ja and something like 60rwkw