Help - Waterpump problems!

Max My Ride · Post by **Max My Ride** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:03 am

Guys please help me out, yesterday as I got into the yard, I heard something sound like it's boiling, when I opened the bonnet I could see the water literally boiling in the water bottle, and when I pulled out the oil dipstick I could see the oil was also bloody hot.....

Now this morning I checked the water level and it was completely empty even in the radiator....so I filled it up and started the car, that's when I noticed water leaking from the front of the engine, at the bottom near the pulleys, could that be the waterpump?.....and if it is, what else could've gone?....
and if I replace the waterpump what else must I replace?

and how would you know if the head gasket is gone?

please help.....

Thanks..........the best possible answers will get a max cap....

Charl · Post by **Charl** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:12 am

HaHa. window u should have given something out aswell when asking about your pansy wagon.

Vlade · Post by **Vlade** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:29 am

SX's are prone to overheating...

Ummm I haven't had overheating problems from the waterpump but rather from my fan's not switching on or my slightly blocked radiator (which is common)

The Head Gasket can be blown if
* When you open up your radiator... you will see oil/water mix or foam.
* Compression lost - car might sound if its running on 3 cylinders
* Oil or water leaking from the side of the block

I'd say try flushing your water system it might just be a blockage, keep an eye on the water temps from then on, if it continues, i'll say have a look at the water pump. If you turn it by hand you should hear it splashing the water and so forth... if it sounds like nothing is happening then open it up and check it out.

Phinx · Post by **Phinx** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:35 am

I luckily have never had an overheating problem until my water pump went in JHB traffic.

Under the OEM water pump you will see a little breather hole, thats where my car pissed all the water out. Basically the seal had gone.

I would recommend finding the source of the leak before buying any parts

I say its the water-pump

It R2200 for an OEM pump from nissan

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:26 pm

head gasket blown can also sometimes be seen by "mayonnaise" under the oil cap.

exactly the opposite of what vlade said about checking the radiator cap. check the oil cap too. the symptoms can appear at both places AFAIK.

its a whitish milky substance that shouldnt be there!!! it happens when the oil and water mix!!!!

and keep an eye on that water temp gauge - if its starts creeping above half, then react quickly so you dont overheat the engine!!!

widowmaker · Post by **widowmaker** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:40 pm

not really all that much that can go wrong with the simple waterpump (except for the bearings)
do you still have the viscous clutch fan or electric?
if viscous - you still have the plastic shroud around the fan? makes a BIG difference when removed

bought myself a ca18de waterpump (box shaped 1600 sentra) from a "taxi shop" for R100 + VAT (brand new) it actually looked better (sturdier) than the one that came out

unless yours has metal fatigue - mine had a few spots where the metal went thin, so can probably leak after a while

Vlade · Post by **Vlade** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:09 pm

veecee wrote:head gasket blown can also sometimes be seen by "mayonnaise" under the oil cap.

exactly the opposite of what vlade said about checking the radiator cap. check the oil cap too. the symptoms can appear at both places AFAIK.

Forgot about that one

ChemCool · Post by **ChemCool** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:14 pm

Forgot about that one

Vlade and VeeCee, we understand when you two people miss or forget something. Not to worry. You to clever okies keep us going man.

widowmaker · Post by **widowmaker** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:00 pm

now that is sweet

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:12 pm

ChemCool wrote:
Forgot about that one
Vlade and VeeCee, we understand when you two people miss or forget something. Not to worry. You to clever okies keep us going man.

widowmaker wrote:
now that is sweet - (and who is this ChemCool really?)

i think he is a girl!!!

ChemCool · Post by **ChemCool** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:17 pm

i think he is a girl!!!

So wont you send me a valentine then?

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:19 pm

ChemCool wrote:
i think he is a girl!!!
So wont you send me a valentine then?

nah - for a girl, you're not very good looking!!!!

but how about a FPR for valentine's???

ChemCool · Post by **ChemCool** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:21 pm

but how about a FPR for valentine's???

OK, OK ek gee op.

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:27 pm

ChemCool wrote:
but how about a FPR for valentine's???
OK, OK ek gee op.

lol - why so soon!!!

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:08 am

It could also be a radiator pipe UNDERNEATH the throttle boddy. Mine developed a hole, and lots of water was dripping down the side of the engine and down to the sump - everyone thought it was the water pump, but no, it was a radiator hose. Please inspect the engine carefully before making any dreaded assumptions - we all like to assume the worst, for some or other odd reason

The radiator hose I'm refering to is part of a "T" piece that sits underneath the pipe that goes to the thermostat from the bottom of the radiator (I think, I'm trying to visualise this - I just remember that it wasn't possible to look directly at the pipe, you had to move the radiator pipe out of the way).

When I blew my head gasket, the hole was so tiny that is displayed NONE of the symptoms the guys described above. So I assumed that I hadn't blown the gasket, but the water still kept overheating! Here's another test to try: when the engine is cool, open the radiator cap, then fill to the top with water. Now get someone to rev the engine to say 3000rpm. If the water starts gushing out of the top, then your head gasket is blown. Also if you're driving around and when the engine is warm, you feel the radiator pipes - if they are STIFF from pressure, then most likely your head gasket is gone.

As a simple "indian" fix for this, you can mix a couple of tablespoons of turmeric powder (the yellow powder used for cooking curries) into a jug of water, and gooi that into the radiator - the powder acts as a very good stop-leak