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160 Kw
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:32 pm
by KCSX
Sup Guys
i have a 100 % Stock 200sx with a ca18det.
i want to build a car that puts out 160 kw or more. Without doing anything to the turbo.
Do you guys know where i mite start ?
Re: 160 Kw
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:34 pm
by rat
KCSX wrote:Sup Guys
i have a 100 % Stock 200sx with a ca18det.
i want to build a car that puts out 160 kw or more. Without doing anything to the turbo.
Do you guys know where i mite start ?
turbo
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:37 pm
by rat
are you talk fwkw or rwkw?
the CA18DET turbo is very lacking for the engine size.
The 370cc injectors will max before 160rwkw
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:38 pm
by KCSX
i dont want to do anything to the turbo right now ,i want to get it to that 160Kw mark first and then mess with the turbo, the engin has +-130Kw std it shoudnt be hard to find another 30+ KW
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:40 pm
by KCSX
rwkw , so bigger injectors would be a good place to start?
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:40 pm
by rat
that is fly wheel kw not rear wheel kw big difference.
to get 160kw at the fly basic bolts ones like zorst FMIC fuel pump maybe a cone filter or drill the std airbox
sx std is doing about 90 - 100rwkw so there is alot of work
my list for 150rwkw boosting at 0.8 - 0.9 injectors 90% duty cycle
T28 off a gtir
fmic
cone filter
63mm zorst
dicktator
walbro pump
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:04 pm
by KCSX
so when people advitise their car ,for example a RSi with 141kw, that 141 is fly wheel Kws?
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:06 pm
by Gary57
yes that is 140kw on the flywheel.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:13 pm
by KCSX
so what would i have to do to make my car faster than the RSi and thge golf GTi
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:16 pm
by Pinkfluffybunnys
The The CA18DET suffers from three main issues that have been corrected on the SR20 Motors
The first is the small MAF that max’s out at around 190HP ( 141FWKW) ,The Second is the completely undersized turbocharger, The T25 doesn’t have the flow capacity to deliver much more above the stock quoted 130KW , I personally think the turbo’s maximum is around 150FWkw (its more sized between a 1400cc – 1600cc motor) and third the small, Intercooler that compounds the issue with the small turbo making inlet temperature sky-rocket.
The Stock injectors are good for around 160FwKW at 100% duty cycle , From experience the first item I would consider upgrading is the fuel pump and exhaust system install a good quality air filter and FMIC. With a good tune this would see the stock AFM maxed out , Replace the item with a SR20 unit or similar increase the boost to around 0.8 – 0.9 bar and this will bring you close to your 160FWKW figure plus allow the turbo to last a little
If your shooting for 160RWKW, you could get that number on any of the inaccurate dyno’s around SA just ask the guy to fiddle with the ambient correction but I don’t think you can truly get that number on the stock turbo
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:30 pm
by KCSX
thank for the advise , i will definatly consider upgrading the turbo to a T28 Bball bearing unit.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:36 pm
by Gary57
Are you buy any chance from DBN and own a grey sx??
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:58 pm
by KCSX
Nope from Pmb and mine is white , but i did buy it from a guy in durban
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:49 pm
by rat
what you going to start with?
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:31 pm
by rat