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Brakes: Rotors

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:32 am
by mario_200sx
Whats the difference between floating rotors and solid rotors?

What is the max size you guys think we should go with rotors? Using 17" mags....

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:44 am
by Gary57
Solid and floating calipers, I would hate it if my rotors floated :lol: .

I have Z32 calipers with 335mm rotors under 17inch mags, there is only about 5mm clearance though.

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:47 am
by HancoB
Sadly they are floating calipers...

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:48 am
by HancoB
Serious race cars use fixed calipers exclusively whenever allowed by the rules.

Manufacturers like floating calipers because they are much cheaper to manufacture, and their lack of positive location is actually a plus in a production application. The ability to float makes these calipers very forgiving of caliper misalignment and/or rotor run out. The downside is crummy pedal feel, as everything moves around and you have to take up the slack. This does not lead to linear brake application, and makes it much harder to keep the brakes on the edge of lockup - which is why you need ABS with floating calipers.

The only functional disadvantage to fixed calipers, be they 2, 4, or 6 piston is that they are very intolerant of caliper misalignment and/or rotor run out. This means that in many cases you will have to shim the caliper and shim and/or true the rotor. What you will get is rock solid pedal with almost no travel. This allows you to "squeeze" the pedal and modulate the brake pressure in a very linear fashion. If you can't effect maximum, edge of traction braking with a properly set up fixed caliper brake system with no ABS, you probably should be playing golf instead.

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:59 am
by mario_200sx
Spank you all! 8)

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:01 am
by HancoB
Its a pleasure....grrr baby

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:02 am
by Riekert
HancoB wrote:Its a pleasure....grrr baby
:shock: :shock:

The gayness is strong in this one....

:lol: :lol:

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:03 am
by mario_200sx
hy moet net weg bly van my af! ek connect hom met 'n floating caliper!

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:05 am
by HancoB
Then you should see my lightsaber!!!! beeehoooowwww

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:23 am
by Sokar
You do get floating discs, look at a superbikes front, you get the center of the disc then there are floating dowels that keep the disc itself attached, but allow a minute amount of sideways movement.

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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:45 am
by Doctor G
Anyone wanna attempt to explain monoblock calipers?

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:48 am
by 300sx
floating discs are much more resistant to warping, as far as i know..

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:48 am
by mario_200sx
Sokar wrote:You do get floating discs, look at a superbikes front, you get the center of the disc then there are floating dowels that keep the disc itself attached, but allow a minute amount of sideways movement.

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Yip, your right Sokar, wnet and did some P.I work (private investigation)

You even get floating rotors for our nice 200sx cars..... hehehehe

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:49 am
by Daniel
Doctor G wrote:Anyone wanna attempt to explain monoblock calipers?
yes google...http://www.freshpatents.com/Monoblock-c ... 289253.php

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:49 am
by HancoB
If you follow Formula One, NASCAR, World Sports Car, Champ or IndyCar racing, the winning teams employ calipers machined from one piece of exotic aluminum alloy. These calipers are referred to as MonoBlock units.