Discussion of technical issues and ideas (engine, chassis)
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Phinx
0.7 Bar Boost
Posts: 720 Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:30 pm
Car: S13
Location: Pretoria
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by Phinx » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:24 pm
Hi Guys ....
My car is currently down again for some Ummm.... testing
seriously
But I have a favor to ask to the guys that use there cars as daily drives when you get to work tomorrow morning can you please feel the temperature of your fuel filter and if possible can you lean under your car and feel the temperature of your tank.
If you have a walbro fuel-pump that will be even better
Thank you guys that assist in this experiment
A.K.A - Wonderboy
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1993 Nissan 200 SX
148 Kw - 250 NM @ 0.55 bar. 1.8T ATW
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1989 Toyota Corrola
63kw - 117nm 1.3- N/A
18.2 @118,4 Km - Rainbow Raceway
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Gary57
Club Rep
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Car: S13
Location: Durban
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by Gary57 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:05 am
Fuel filter was rather cold to the touch, it was 26 degrees this morning. The tank was ambiant tempreture.
Phinx
0.7 Bar Boost
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Car: S13
Location: Pretoria
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by Phinx » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:19 am
Thanks Gary...
I need one more person to check... Please if possible
A.K.A - Wonderboy
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1993 Nissan 200 SX
148 Kw - 250 NM @ 0.55 bar. 1.8T ATW
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1989 Toyota Corrola
63kw - 117nm 1.3- N/A
18.2 @118,4 Km - Rainbow Raceway
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Vlade
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Car: Other
Real Name: Barend
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by Vlade » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:29 am
From previous experience... mine is rather cold after a drive... expect if I sit in traffic, everything in the bay just soaks with heat then.
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Gary57
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by Gary57 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:00 am
I just checked now again and the filter is still cold, well cool really. And the tank is slightly above ambiant.
Phinx
0.7 Bar Boost
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Car: S13
Location: Pretoria
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by Phinx » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:45 am
Hmmm.....
We then its not really worth it.
Thanks Guys
A.K.A - Wonderboy
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1993 Nissan 200 SX
148 Kw - 250 NM @ 0.55 bar. 1.8T ATW
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1989 Toyota Corrola
63kw - 117nm 1.3- N/A
18.2 @118,4 Km - Rainbow Raceway
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gary57
Club Rep
Posts: 5975 Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:56 pm
Car: S13
Location: Durban
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by Gary57 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:20 pm
Why what plan were you thinking of?? Heating the fuel before the injectors to aid in the atomisation??
Phinx
0.7 Bar Boost
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Car: S13
Location: Pretoria
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by Phinx » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:14 pm
Why what plan were you thinking of?? Heating the fuel before the injectors to aid in the atomisation??
Its not a Jet engine.
A.K.A - Wonderboy
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1993 Nissan 200 SX
148 Kw - 250 NM @ 0.55 bar. 1.8T ATW
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1989 Toyota Corrola
63kw - 117nm 1.3- N/A
18.2 @118,4 Km - Rainbow Raceway
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gary57
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Posts: 5975 Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:56 pm
Car: S13
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by Gary57 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:18 pm
So what was the plan??
Vlade
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by Vlade » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:29 pm
cooling the fuel works better in a combustion engine
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Gary57
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by Gary57 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:38 pm
But heating the fuel is better for atomisation.
Phinx
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by Phinx » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:55 pm
cooling the fuel works better in a combustion engine
Bingo
We have a winner
But you will need at least 10C difference from Ambient
A.K.A - Wonderboy
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1993 Nissan 200 SX
148 Kw - 250 NM @ 0.55 bar. 1.8T ATW
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1989 Toyota Corrola
63kw - 117nm 1.3- N/A
18.2 @118,4 Km - Rainbow Raceway
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Vlade
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Posts: 2776 Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:40 am
Car: Other
Real Name: Barend
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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by Vlade » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:38 pm
Yeah too cold and then you run into trouble again... I've seen systems where the guys cool there fuel lines with NOS, also little water spray thing from the window washer... but I reckon you would have more success by cooling intake air temps.
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Gary57
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by Gary57 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:40 pm
Phinx sorry to go off topic but when you fitted the intake manifold did you connect the water hose to it, I am supposing you didnt. Did you feel any hastels with cold starts etc?? I always thought that was doff putting hot water through the manifold, which heat the air the intercooler just cooled.
Vlade
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by Vlade » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:45 pm
Would be an interesting mod... or you know what you can do, connect that water lines to a fuel type solenoid, on cold start open up the solenoid boom hot water in manifold...
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