oil - your choice

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:40 pm

pfffttt - just a sales trick...

here's an excerpt:

How much do you value the engine in your car? Think about it, because the life of your engine depends in no small part on the quality of the oil you put in it - oil is the lifeblood of your car's engine. From the mid 80's for 8 or 9 years there was a veritable revolution in car engine oil. All oils were no longer the same thanks to the popularity of hot hatches, 16-valve engines and turbos as the tuner scene started to rise. Combined with the devastating problems of black death, the days of one oil catering for everyone were over.

go to the full article here http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html because i dont feel like retyping the heaps of info that there is out there, proving the fact that the better oils ARE actually better!

pay particular attention the BLACK DEATH and SLUDGE sections.

HancoB · Post by **HancoB** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:47 pm

Still doesn't prove that synthetic is better????

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Thu May 22, 2008 6:52 am

OMG!

i guess you just cant help it.

what worries me is that you are giving others advice like, "just use normal shell helix" cos the xost of the synthetic stuff is not justified.

yet the cost of rebuilding turbos and engines far outweighs 300 bucks for 5 litres every 5-10 thousand km's.???

cape town drfter · Post by **cape town drfter** » Thu May 22, 2008 7:41 am

HI Guys
On my previous twin cam 16v corolla I only used Mobil 1 never had engine blow-up It made 138kw which was wicked for a 1600 eight years ago ,8000rpm every weekend on the N2 Cape Town,Current vehicles S13 and S14 are all running on Castrol TXT full synthetic all the way

.cannot afford Mob1 .........

I do an oil change every 5000km..

Gary57 · Post by **Gary57** » Thu May 22, 2008 8:13 am

Hanco every heard of Mobil 1, F1 use it so do WRC. If there was no benefit of synthetic oil why would Shell offer it over the cheap Shell helix??

Trance you have Magnatec in there now and you when you do the oil change it will be Castrol SLX.

HancoB · Post by **HancoB** » Thu May 22, 2008 9:03 am

So why does my mechanic who is a well known tuner and has built a few sx that was on loads of events and mags tell me I shouldn't bother using synthetic???

If you guys are such good tuners why aren't you so good that we hear of your cars making it everywhere??? All we hear is that this is no broken and that is now broken.

back to the oil...you know that dog food and bully beef is one and the same thing??? just different packaging! That is how they are fooling us with things like that. It has been proven on many a motor show.

Gary57 · Post by **Gary57** » Thu May 22, 2008 9:35 am

If you guys are such good tuners why aren't you so good that we hear of your cars making it everywhere??? All we hear is that this is no broken and that is now broken.

SORRY, have you ever heard me bitching about my car breaking?? I have had it over 160RwKw for the past 2 years, I drive it every day. It has been at 200RwKw for nearly the past year, still no issues. So dont come saying that my car is always breaking, cause it one of the most reliable here. The fact that we dont built these "tuner" cars is $$$, where do you expect me to shit that much $$$ from hey?? The last I saw these so called "tuners" dont build these cars for free, most of the cars they build are customers cars so not 1c somes out of their pocket.

Please hanco maybe you and your mechy know something more that the chemists at Shell, Mobil 1, Castrol etc, and you guys should go teach the engineers that design engines something. You obviously know than they do, or is it that you are just regurgitating what your Mechy is telling you??

PS: Hanco what do you do for a living?? Is it anything to do with engines, or cars for that matter??

HancoB · Post by **HancoB** » Thu May 22, 2008 9:45 am

Mechanical engineering student!

And yes he did actually build that car with his own money.

And no you still didnt prove that its better.

Gary57 · Post by **Gary57** » Thu May 22, 2008 9:47 am

A student, I am a mechanical engineer, what year are you in??

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Thu May 22, 2008 9:49 am

Gary...sorry but I need to say something here....the fact that your car has been relieble for the last 2 years may have no connection to the oil you use, not to say I know more or anything about oil, forget about the oil, mostly our cars break because of cheap fixes and wrong setups....we can blame oil as much as we want.....but be honost....no one on this forum could without any doubt say the oil caused the breakdown....of a turbo or a motor

HancoB · Post by **HancoB** » Thu May 22, 2008 9:54 am

Oh so that makes you a better person now? You say that as if you have a chip on your shoulder.

3d year.

And yes Draco is right!

Gary57 · Post by **Gary57** » Thu May 22, 2008 9:58 am

No draco he said:

If you guys are such good tuners why aren't you so good that we hear of your cars making it everywhere??? All we hear is that this is no broken and that is now broken.

That is saying that we know nothing and all our cars are always breaking. That has nothing to do the oil we use at all, but more that we know nothing cause our cars are always breaking. My car does NOT break and it has more power than most. He cannot sit there saying that I am no good cause all he hears is this is broken on my car, now that is broken on my car.

HancoB · Post by **HancoB** » Thu May 22, 2008 9:58 am

If so, why didnt nissan release the car with synthetic oil? They spent millions on designing a car, and they built this car to run on normal mineral oil. So why would you be better than the team of Jappies who built and designed the car?

Gary57 · Post by **Gary57** » Thu May 22, 2008 10:00 am

Dude, 3rd year you should have done chemistry by now. Please it is like you argueing with your quantum physics lecturer when you know nothing about the subject.

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Thu May 22, 2008 10:03 am

Something my commonsence tells me....maybe I am rong but sludge and such does cause buildup that causes blockages and so forth, synthetick oil obviosly helps reduse this because it is thinner.

But if you look at engines with that kind of sludge and buildup, you would see those engines were rarely serviced, oil in those engines were there for much more then 10000 km's.....obviosly if you don't do regular oil changes and engine flushes sludge will form....thats common sence or sense or what ever....

Just my point of view