Project - Damn CA

Phinx · Post by **Phinx** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:56 pm

**** Update ****

I can’t seem to balance the books so I am going to have to drop the “conrods” from the build.

I was able to source a set of Aries Pistons for the Ca18det for a good price. Thank you to all involved, you know who you are.

It’s going to cost me R 3000 for the engineering alone.
The company will be assembling the block.

I will be doing the head and all other goodies…
Started heat-wrapping the manifold and down-pipe, using the wrap recommended by Johan200sx

So much to do

Vlade · Post by **Vlade** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:17 pm

keep up the good work...

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:09 pm

hey phinx,

speaking of the steering bush - sokar said that you and i have a deal? that true?

and vlade is right - keep it up, you'll get there eventually!!! later is better than never!!!

Phinx · Post by **Phinx** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:23 pm

Mother-F*ckers

I get sick when people do this.
I really appreciate the people helping me find this set of pistons
But I asked the guys if this was a set of ca18det pistons and was told 'yes'

But Guess what ...

Damn Honda pistons

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Will they work, 'Yes' but they will need to be machined for the oil squirter's
And thats the last thing I care to do...

Veecee... I'm up for the deal...

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:36 pm

cool man...

well i mean about the deal, not about the morons supplying the wrong parts!!! thats a bummer man.

i dont even think my honda pistons were like that!!! i dont think they had to be machined for hte oil squirters!!!

Vlade · Post by **Vlade** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:48 am

Thats why I didn't go with Arias, last thing I wanted to do is machine my new forged pistons.

Sorry to see that dude...

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:51 am

hmmmm...

now i cant remember what i told my engineer to do about that!!!

cos my engine was balanced before assembly, and i bet after balancing the turds had to machine my pistons to prevent piston skirt/oil squirt interface!!!

well its running ok now, so i'll leave it alone!

Sokar · Post by **Sokar** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:13 am

Geez, I'm amazed how similar those pistons are. Some Nissan dude has been sleeping in a Honda bed

Gary57 · Post by **Gary57** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:26 am

Veecee... I'm up for the deal...

Whats the deal??

Some Nissan dude has been sleeping in a Honda bed

Do you guys think there is something more than just pistons that make these motor the same?? Like maybe it is a Honda CA18DET and not a Nissan?? I know it happens quite a bit in the industry...

Phinx · Post by **Phinx** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:44 am

The Valve relives are a bit to excessive (Good for un-shrouding valves if they where in the right place)

They are slightly off when comparing to the stock piston ( I know not that accurate)

The Pistons are very similar, the height from pin to deck is the same but I will need to machine to get the oil squinter to clear.

Well let me phone the guy to see if I can take these back

Vlade · Post by **Vlade** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:52 am

try Wossner there are plenty of local dealers (because of VW parts they supply) and you can get pistons off the shelf, rather than a custom order

http://www.forgedpistons.co.uk/products ... asp?id=123

http://www.woessner-kolben.de/english/indexenglish.html

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:08 am

hey gary!!! you are one inquisitive oke hey!!!

lol - dont worry about it. we're swopping some parts!

and i do think the honda engine is branded similarly to the nissan one. i'm not 100% sure, but honda have B, C, D, and F etc blocks. and they number them according to the displacement. so you get a honda B18b block for instance, therefore it could well be that there is a C18 honda block!

Phinx · Post by **Phinx** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:22 am

Thanks Vl@de , bit I really have tried them all...

Wossner
Ross
Cp
Wiseco
Toda
JE - dont really make for the ca18det

Cheap brands

Power piston
AE

I just think R 5000 - R6000 for just pistons is damn crazy
But thanks dude...

Guess the search is on again

Sokar · Post by **Sokar** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:30 am

Gary57 wrote:Do you guys think there is something more than just pistons that make these motor the same?? Like maybe it is a Honda CA18DET and not a Nissan?? I know it happens quite a bit in the industry...

Well, Nissan did buy permission to use the Vtec system "or a clone of it" on the VE's maybe Nissan is copying Honda

Gary57 · Post by **Gary57** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:47 am

I just think R 5000 - R6000 for just pistons is damn crazy

Why dont you just get the stock pistons ceramic coated?? You arent going to be running 1.5bar or anything. If my stock pistons are coping with 1Bar and 200RwKw I am sure that ceramic coated one will cope with even more.

hey gary!!! you are one inquisitive oke hey!!!

lol - dont worry about it. we're swopping some parts!

Haha, Ja I am, I need to everything about everything...

Well, Nissan did buy permission to use the Vtec system "or a clone of it" on the VE's maybe Nissan is copying Honda

I think Nissan and Honda must have some sort of agreement... I wonder what other parts will fit the CA???