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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:50 pm
by Draco
maybe i must go play solitaire instead before i tell draco his mother is quite nice
:wink: Good idea...I might just take offence and rip ur head off and piss down your throat :lol:

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:52 pm
by Gary57
The new HG was ordered to drop compression, just for a little reliability.
But I thought you were after more power, what did you drop it too??
"my daddy sed that the highly qualified and clever engineers at the factory designed the cars/engines so that all the little parts work together optimally but you will always have some backyard dudes with 120-piece toolkits from Hyperama and a drill thinking that they can do better"
My dad says the same thing, if you fiddle it will break (I get this everytime something goes wrong), and he is a mechanic for 30 odd years now.

Dont want to start this arguement again but leave it to the pros. I understand if you cant afford them but if you can send it in to a mechanic to work on (dont mean to be a prick now but how many of the guys here have met this same fate??). I am a qualified mechanic and still I call on my dad for his opinion, why because he is better than me, experiance counts here guys.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:00 pm
by Draco
AKA wonderboy...I am sceptic hear, I still ask, how do you make your power if the boost is down, the timing is down and the compression is dropped.....I am sorry but it does not make sence....sometning was doen to make your power and that might have lead to the current situation.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:04 pm
by Gary57
AKA wonderboy...I am sceptic hear, I still ask, how do you make your power if the boost is down, the timing is down and the compression is dropped.....I am sorry but it does not make sence....sometning was doen to make your power and that might have lead to the current situation.
He has done alot of flow work, that motor will breathe beautifully, Im jealous.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:09 pm
by Draco
Gary57 wrote:
AKA wonderboy...I am sceptic hear, I still ask, how do you make your power if the boost is down, the timing is down and the compression is dropped.....I am sorry but it does not make sence....sometning was doen to make your power and that might have lead to the current situation.
He has done alot of flow work, that motor will breathe beautifully, Im jealous.
Um Gary....the flow job was done after the power figure he shows, he would make even more now....but still could you make 20kw on the wheels with a flow job :roll:

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:17 pm
by Gary57
True Draco but then he did just say that the HG was put now to lower compression. I know he had the CA18DE cam in there (so will I on Saturday, will post the difference). To me the motor has a turbo so use it, boost the bladdy thing to 1Bar, problem is the clutch gives up at a bar :cry: .

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:34 pm
by Sokar
Draco wrote:I am sorry but it does not make sence....
It will make perfect sense one day once you realize what boost really is...

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:33 pm
by Phinx
Sokar.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Gary - Cant wait for the Dyno , Will be very interesting . I really interested
Heard its around 7RWKW

And don't get me started on tuners, because thats a big can of worms. :?
R20-000 rand later and in the shit after someone has touch my car is not where I want to be

I have access to almost 60 years of experience about 40 years being race everything from Rotor to V8's and even they are surprised because they know the amount of time,Money and parts I use.

I have researched every modification made to may car and maximized its return with the next mod.

Boost: 8 Psi (0,55 Bar)
Timing: 12 BTDC
Comp: 8.3 est (Commetic)

148 RWKW was before the cam and other mods....

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:05 am
by veecee
oh i laughed all the way through this ranting and raving.

phinx wanting to sell his sx (is this the same phinx i know!!!).

toby saying that only stock motors dont give shit. (how long did your stock motor last tobles??? :wink: :wink: :wink: )

gary saying that you should leave to the pro's. (like masturbator???)

widomaker saying that draco's mom is nice (ess good good good ees good ees nice!! (harcore dude - i wouldn't F___K so much with draco - i dont think he was kidding about pissing down your throat!!!).

and saying that fiddling makes things break???(sometimes a good fiddle makes things all better!!!)

sokare - when you find out what boost is, can you explain it to my stoopid engine so that we can be friends again???

and did someone say flowjob - damn i almost misread that.

:wink:

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:27 am
by Toby
Hehe nice summary there, V :)

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:30 am
by widowmaker
you sure talk a lot...

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:10 am
by Hennie Marais
Phinx wrote:
Whats really upsetting me is I paid through my back pocket, living like a hermit just to have enough cash to keep it running (Even begging for favors, Hennie thanks again) ,,
No problem, as soon as I get the stuff for mine, then I can finish all 3 of them. HEHEHE.

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:12 am
by Gary57
Gary - Cant wait for the Dyno , Will be very interesting . I really interested
Heard its around 7RWKW
Problem is I will only be able to tell using my but dyno, cause since the last dyno tune (which is a different dyno to the one I will be using) I have fitted tubular manifold and bigger cooler and I can deffinately feel a BIG improvement. I think at 1Bar it will make more than 7RwKw more like 12RwKw or so, well from what I have read. If I can get close to 190-200RwKw I will be happy, that will be will only bolt on mods.

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:13 am
by Draco
Sokar wrote:
Draco wrote:I am sorry but it does not make sence....
It will make perfect sense one day once you realize what boost really is...
Sokar thanks....you just made me wonder about this and it seems I was misconfuckulated the whole time....master....please teach me I am your student. :lol:

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:59 am
by Phinx
190-200RwKw you will be maxing or very close to maxing your injectors for a good part of your upper rev range if you are still using (370cc)

I would Say around 7 Rwkw because, It's a small change in degree and lift but it does give alot more midrange punch so there should be good gains there