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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:43 am
by Toby
I'd say stick to the standard airbox. Unlike NA cars, the turbo actually sucks in air, and while you will still get a gain from some non-filtering filter, it will not be noticable (except psychologically). And also, these engines are muffled by all the intake goodies so you won't get that sound that you do from a NA car, although you might hear some turbo flutter if you're into that kinda thing...
You're also trading off a little power gain with a lot of reduced longevity. The weaker the air filter, the more damage your air flow meter takes. And that costs over R4000 to replace. I've seen piece of glue come off from aftermarket filters - if that goes through your AFM, it could damage it permanently. IT could also hit your turbo while it's spinning at full speed, unbalancing the shaft and doing lots of damage in the process.
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:37 am
by Draco
I agree with Toby, stay with the standard box, what I do not agree with is the aftermarket filter that brakes off a piece of glue or anything for that matter of fact....this can happen with any filter, if you use a good filter like BMC or K&N and use it the right way, oil and so forth, you won't have any problems.
That is my opinion, I have been using a BMC filter now for almost 2 years...
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:40 am
by Gary57
I think a cone filter is great just use a quality one, K&N or BMC or something.
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:42 am
by Charlvdw
Hi Draco
Are you rumming a inbox BMC?
Im also trying to free up space for the plumming of a FMIC.
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:49 am
by Charlvdw
Gary i would like to run K&N or BMC the thing is that i wasnt sure about the size of the adaptor and because of that i yust got the same brand of filter. I was looking at BMC but the nearest size was a 76mm where the somota i think is a 70mm.
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:49 am
by Draco
Yes I am, it is called a OEM replacement filter, the 200sti usses the same filter.....
PS. I fitted a huge FMIC without removing my bumper or anything....just have a look when you have it....
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:58 am
by Charlvdw
Im looking at the OEM now on the Autostlyle website, but will my car go better(dont want to call it normal) again ones the airbox is back with the OEM fitted?
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:01 am
by Draco
You will gain around 3-5 wkw but again it has to be done on a dyna.
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:07 am
by Charlvdw
Whats the feeling about Steves auto clinic?
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:16 am
by Draco
I have never tried them, spoke to the a few times but decided to go else where....you can give them a try, maybe they surprise us...
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:37 am
by Charlvdw
Ive sent them a mail with my long sobbing story ,will see what they say.
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:24 pm
by Toby
Steve's Auto Clinic is a RIP OFF! Yes, technically they are quite good, but I find that they lack respect for the 200SX and see it as a money-making opportunity. Expect them to tell you things like: your bearings are worn, you have no compression on your cylinders, your turbo is stuffed, etc. Plus I gave them a simple electric aerial to fit and they stuffed it up. Plus my compression was actually fine. And they are BLOODY expensive...
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:48 pm
by veecee
Toby wrote:Steve's Auto Clinic is a RIP OFF! Yes, technically they are quite good, but I find that they lack respect for the 200SX and see it as a money-making opportunity. Expect them to tell you things like: your bearings are worn, you have no compression on your cylinders, your turbo is stuffed, etc. Plus I gave them a simple electric aerial to fit and they stuffed it up. Plus my compression was actually fine. And they are BLOODY expensive...
when i bought my car the previous owner said that it had been to SAC twice in the past. once was for an turbo rebuild. when i took the car off his hands the turbo was not spinning at all. they had used so much firegum that it had lodged itself between the turbo wheel and housing, and it couldn't spin.
the workmanship was so bad on the engine that i had decided within two weeks of owning it, that i had to rebuild it myself!
so i would definitely tell anyone considering their services to stay away. technically, from what i saw on my car, they were absolutely terrible!!!
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:58 pm
by Charlvdw
They havent replied on my mail so i went to them in person. 800 and something for a remap. Then ill rather go back to Dastek, they charge 450 for a dyno witch i suppose will be the same for remat seeing min e is still within garantee.
Toby i would've done your aerial for free, mine took me 30minutes to replace.
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:42 pm
by Toby
Charl, I might still take you up on that offer! My aerial doesn't go all the way down, even though I redid the aerial after SAC stuffed it up, and added the metal sleeve they had left off.