Bearings Knocking on heaven's Door

200SX MP · Post by **200SX MP** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:17 am

And phinx i desagree that this is not a good looking car i love this cars shape best ever built but like draco said maybe its just a small thing that cost u your bearings and the carss

Phinx · Post by **Phinx** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:50 am

And phinx i desagree that this is not a good looking car i love this cars shape best ever built but like draco said maybe its just a small thing that cost u your bearings and the carss

A S15 would be a different story that looks good, And the boost is 0,5 bar with 12 degrees Advance..

This Motor is really upsetting me , I have never even heard of people having these issues so often

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:58 am

with 12 degrees Advance..

Is that 12 digrees advanced past normal or 12 past TDC?

ChemCool · Post by **ChemCool** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:17 pm

12 degrees Advance..

Interesting. How do you prevent detonation then? Racing feul?

Chem

Gary57 · Post by **Gary57** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:21 pm

It is probably 12DBTDC.

Just a silly question but when you fitted the mines chip did you check the timing on the motor and correspond it to what the ECU said it should be.

Ero_sennin · Post by **Ero_sennin** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:10 pm

Gary57 wrote:It is probably 12DBTDC.

Just a silly question but when you fitted the mines chip did you check the timing on the motor and correspond it to what the ECU said it should be.

think that is a bloody good question actually

Phinx · Post by **Phinx** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:45 pm

LOL....

The guys quiet knowledgeable it was the base timing the map was set for and agreed upon on our pump ,There is nothing wrong with the tune,

The new HG was ordered to drop compression, just for a little reliability.
The combustion chamber was polished to drop the detonation threshold.

I change oil every 3000km my cars water is changed every 5000km (Why because then the car needs work again

).

It just pisses me off, I'm getting sick of spending this amount of money to just stare at the car on jack stands, I'm starting to not enjoy owning the car because I cant drive it and when I drive it I question every noise, then it breaks down two weeks later.

Whats really upsetting me is I paid through my back pocket, living like a hermit just to have enough cash to keep it running (Even begging for favors, Hennie thanks again) , Doing all the work myself because I cant afford taking it anywhere. So far its cost me around, no "Shit" !!! between R 1500 - 3500 a mouth over and above my car payment and insurance (Ask sokar if you don't beleave me ) just to keep the car on the road.

And I still cant drive it, I was told it was a problematic car but this is not funny anymore, I just want to enjoy my car for 6 months at least before having to spend money on it,

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:49 pm

On that point, my feeling is that if people fiddle with the standard car and add performance parts, increase boost, etc. you WILL pay through your butt to keep the car running. If you leave it standard and enjoy it for what it is, you can have 6 months of driving, no problem. My 2c.

Not trying to start a fight!!

And no offense!! If you like to do up your car, by all means. All I'm saying is that it's gonna be expensive.

Phinx · Post by **Phinx** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:55 pm

Agreed, Toby...

But Stock motors give issues aswell

Ero_sennin · Post by **Ero_sennin** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:35 pm

Thats why I did it properly this time round, I also got fed up. Driving to work and back on my bicycle for six months was not really what I call fun.
I know I would screw something up if I do it myself, well I still screw stuff up when I fiddle, so I saved up for quit a while. I have been a member here for over a year and only managed to go to a meeting recently.
I know first hand this car squeezes each cent out of you.

Buying an S13 with a car loan is not a good idea, I saved up for a year to buy it cash still ended up spending a wad of cash on top of that to fix stuff, still not having enough. Having a second car helps as well, that was my Idea untill I crashed my other car, I don't drink jagger bombs no more.

Well thats my rant and quadruple digits worth of lessons spent in Rands.

PS mine was stock and stuff kept breaking

widowmaker · Post by **widowmaker** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:42 pm

definitely not pointing at anyone, but i have said it before
"my daddy sed that the highly qualified and clever engineers at the factory designed the cars/engines so that all the little parts work together optimally but you will always have some backyard dudes with 120-piece toolkits from Hyperama and a drill thinking that they can do better"

still not pointing, just concurring
maybe im just jealous cozof why i cant afford mods

imagine those people changing the little cogs in their grandfather clock to high performance bigger titanium units to make the hours fly past faster... they are just making death come quicker.

now that statement has even ME wondering what was in that last cigarette...
maybe i must go play solitaire instead before i tell draco his mother is quite nice

(note to self : mmm kentucky...)

widowmaker · Post by **widowmaker** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:44 pm

Ero_sennin wrote: Having a second car helps as well,

well, yeah, unless your second car happens to be another s13

widowmaker · Post by **widowmaker** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:47 pm

by the way WHERE THE HELL IS WOOHAAAAARRGH?

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:09 pm

He sold his car to Jinx...

BTW, yes, stock cars break too 'cos they're old. Hence me spending wads of cash to get it back up and running, but I'm trying to fiddle as little as possible. Maybe one day it will run reliably, and THEN I can start pointing fingers

Doctor G · Post by **Doctor G** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:17 pm

Draco wrote:Phinx you know what gets me....you ran low boost, you ran normal timing, did some flow work and all, but you had some serios power, something somewhere does not click, how do you get a bearing knock with a less than stock boost, normal timing and better flow and and....it does not make sence, oil was good and all.....that begs the quiestion....was your timing and compression normal, was the boost actually 0.5.......

Phinx as for you getting pissed....I understand, too much is too much.

Thing is when you rebuild a motor, the engineers don't always do a precise job. I've seen that a few times already. If there was a mistake made there then nothing will survive it. Not even low boost and low compression.

Some bearings you can't even touch the surface with your fingers and it causes crap.