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Post by Pinkfluffybunnys »

I remember being asked on the “Nico” club why I wrapped my branch and down-pipe with thermal tape.
I also remember trying to explain to the guys that you loss allot more energy through a tubular manifold because of the increase length over the stock unit and this energy is no longer driving you Turbocharger so after some discussion the people needed dyno proof that I couldn’t provided

Well anyway now I can
How It Works: Wrapping a turbine and turbo manifold with insulating material decreases the amount of heat energy radiated from them, forcing more to pass through the turbine. Hot gasses are expansive, and directing more heat through a turbine wheel will cause it to spin faster, increasing spool and power production.

How It Was Tested: Carter's SR-swapped '91 240SX was driven to G-Dimension in City of Industry, Calif., where resident Nissan guru Stephen Rhim strapped it to the Dynojet in preparation for baseline runs while I fit Auto Meter probes underhood, monitoring temperature in three key locations above the manifold and turbo. After starting the car cold and allowing it to idle to maximum temperature, three pulls were made to establish an average baseline power number, while maximum underhood temperatures were tracked along the way. After wrapping the manifold with Thermo-Tec's exhaust wrap and the S14 GT2560's turbine in turbo insulating material, the test was repeated and final numbers were documented.

What It Delivered: Compared to baseline power and temperature numbers, installing the Thermo-Tec products increased power output by 10.7 whp and 12.6 lb-ft of torque, and dropped underhood temperatures by 30 degrees.


10.7 whp and 12.6 lb-ft of torque This is a damn nice gain for just taking the time to wrap your manifold

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Post by Gary57 »

Problem is are holding so much heat that you will near the melting point very quickly. My EGT are about 850degrees when I floor it, wrapping it would see this side of 1000degrees I am sure.
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My manifold has been wrapped for almost two years dont seem to have an issue.
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Cool. I just dont like the idea of being that close to the limits...
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Post by Doctor G »

I just don't like the look of the wrap personally.

We should try this using ceramic coating rather.
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Its very commn practice both wrap and ceramic coating
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Post by HancoB »

That all makes sense yeah but as Gary said, the heat will be so much more. I had a chat with a few tuners and exhaust companies about that heat shield that comes stock on our sx'es. Their words were(and all said the same thing) Rather not insulate your heat for safety reasons(cracking the manifold, manifold bolts burning into the head and or manifold, or turbo) but insulate your your cold pipes, make sure the temp in your cold pipes stay as low as possible.

That is just what I have been told. I would like to investigate myself and see what can be done!
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