a big problem...

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:05 pm

i just thought of something huge...

1. i have a new motor with 0km's on it.
2. i have a brand new management system with it - also 0km's!
3. i dont have a map for the motor, not even a startup map.

so my question is:

how the crap am i going to get this motor started and running, and then how am i going to get it run in properly???

rat · Post by **rat** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:09 pm

find some std maps and tune off that just to get it to a place that can dyno it for you

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:10 pm

do i really wanna stick it on the dyno even though its not run in???

not sure about that?

Gary57 · Post by **Gary57** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:10 pm

Call Gotech and ask them for a base map.

You are going to KAK to start it anyway. Prob put my number on speed dial

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rat · Post by **rat** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:12 pm

do you know anyone that has worked on a management system?

like gary did with mine, bottem end of the map right, do your run in, you not going to go over 4000rpm anyway

Sokar · Post by **Sokar** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:20 pm

rat wrote:do you know anyone that has worked on a management system?

like gary did with mine, bottem end of the map right, do your run in, you not going to go over 4000rpm anyway

He's decided on the motoman breakin, not the easy breakin....

rat · Post by **rat** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:22 pm

Sokar wrote:
rat wrote:do you know anyone that has worked on a management system?

like gary did with mine, bottem end of the map right, do your run in, you not going to go over 4000rpm anyway
He's decided on the motoman breakin, not the easy breakin....

i see

WarrenS13 · Post by **WarrenS13** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:37 pm

Eish eish eish. I'm sure there are base maps floating about on the net...

AR 200SX · Post by **AR 200SX** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:38 pm

wazup vc,just go and check on gotech's site.should get one there.i found some while i was busy fitting the dicktator.didn;t help me bcause they dont use the same software.

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:43 pm

hey AR... wwwwwwaaaaaaazzzzzzzuuuuuuuuuppppppppp!!!!

i have checked there. they do have maps for the sr20det, but only version 5 maps, and i had to go and buy the latest one flippin one! i've got version 6.

and the manual clearly states DO NOT LOAD maps from a different version.

i emailed them three times now in a week or so... and this time, fokol response!

getting annoyed now!

AR 200SX · Post by **AR 200SX** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:10 pm

ja.daai is i kak een.

tried phoning?

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:16 pm

i will tomorrow!

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:43 pm

a few posts back i bitched about the kak service today from gotech.

well, i guess you have to give everyone a chance hey. checked my email now, and it seems they replied to my message just after i left work!

louis sent a map for the sr20det, and said the v5 map he sent will work on the v6. nice! again - thanks gotech.

still i wonder if its ok to run an engine in on a base map???

rat · Post by **rat** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:47 pm

i dont see why not, unless you under/overfueling badly, or timing way out

antman · Post by **antman** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:35 am

Hey VeeCee, had a similar problem last week with Gotech, had version 3 on my box which went faulty and had to go back twice as the box did not work at all, ended up that the D/A chip was shot. They put version 6 on the box and I used a base map version 5 which they reccommended. I am no expert and no doubt there are experts on this forum but here is my contribution to the issue.

The base map did not really work as the motor fired but did not want to run for any length of time so had to tweak it alot just to get the motor to run.
Before cranking the motor first check the timing is not too advanced (I retarded base map timing to about 8 degrees in all ranges). Ypu can always advance the timing a degree at a time as the motor is running. Check that all the settings in the config screen F5 is set up for your motor ie the ignition Internal/External settings ect.(very important)
Try to start the motor and as soon as the motor starts and is running set the F6 screen which is your auto choke set up.Reduce the values as the engine temp vertical bar moves to the left and reduce the values to zero at about 30 deg celcius as this extra fuel can bugger you around when adjusting fuel when the motor is warm. dont try to rev the motor as it probably wont rev too well, rather wait for the motor to get to normal operating temp and them play with the fueling and timing by tweaking the base values bit by bit as they should not be too far out. do Dont do fuel and timing changes at the same time as you will not know which caused the improvement or not.
My plan was to get the motor to run and drive off boost and get some mileage on the motor before the dyno.