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Hey guys, need some help/info. As you know I'm starting my rebuild soon and would like to know the following (I know this has been discussed elsewhere but can't remember where... :oops: )

I'd especially like some input from gary seeing as he's running a strong motor with what I gather to be stock internals!?!?!?

I'm going with the Arias pistons for sure, but have any of you guys upgraded the rods. Something like the ones Mr.Turbo make - they're R3k and come with ARP bolts and rated for 600HP.

How about knife-edging and nitriding the crank? Or shotpeening the std rods?

I remember VC saying something about 150rwkW reliably from stock internals??? :twisted: That would be sweet...

Once my DET is stripped I'll start comparing the DET and DE bits so we can make a useful thread or sticky for someone to use DE parts to rebuild DET...
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If you going Arias pistons then its not stock internals anymore...

Anyway I heard the stock rods are good for 8000rpm and 400hp so I dont think its nessesary to change them.
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Yes I know: by stock internals I mean stock crank and rods.

So I'll keep everything std except pistons and then we'll se how goes....

If I had the money (about R14k for parts) I would"ve loved to build the following:

- Arias pistons (this is going in...)
- MrTurbo rods
- ACL Race bearings
- ACL Race Gasket set
- DE cams (this is going in...)
- Vernier pulleys (How's it coming along Gary???)
- Electric water pump
- OEM oil pump
- DE Flywheel (this is going in...)

At least we can still dream...
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Cant see how that list would be R14k...
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DE Flywheel?

Can someone explain why you want this plz!
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Lighter??
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Post by mario_200sx »

Gary57 wrote:Cant see how that list would be R14k...
I can easily see that mount up 2 R14k, just the pistons amd comrods work out to R8k. :shock:
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R7k mario :lol: .
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Acually R7.5k gary :P

And as far as I know (from various internet sources - so accuracy unknown) the DE flywheel is lighter std than DET...
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ok lighter but will fwd work on rwd
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R7k for forged pistons and conrods? :shock:
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From that list I would drop the fong-kong rods from Mr-Turbo... you don't want any knockoff crap in your engine...

You missed some action over the past year on this forum to what happens when you fit knock-off parts...

Stock rods can handle 450hp, I would rather try source ARP studs, for the rods, crack case, head with the money of the rods...
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PIc's of DET rods

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Nice ROD! :lol:
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Nice ROD!
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