Time for a rebuild

EightySix · Post by **EightySix** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:45 am

The other thing is that you can buy a RB25 motoer for the same price.

:D

mario_200sx · Post by **mario_200sx** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:53 am

and a VQ45

Gary57 · Post by **Gary57** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:38 pm

But then you are back to another 2nd hand motor, with problems. If I bought any import motor for myself I would overhaul it no matter what.

mario_200sx · Post by **mario_200sx** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:04 pm

I can buy a VQ45 thats in sound condition, dont need to recon for R8500-00.

Sorry we are why of topic here, my bad...

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:02 pm

rat wrote:but it will last another 300000kms

thats what so many people say, and it really isnt true.

i know so many people who've rebuilt motors and they dont last 50 000km's!!!

hahaha - i know some people who couldn't even finish the run-in period!!!

DoctorG · Post by **DoctorG** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:08 pm

Rebuilds that don't last must be either a bad build or improper engineering.

If done right it should be if nothing else reliable.

But the fact of the matter is yes it seems expensive. Then again, if you threw in some forged internals, work the head, do the cams etc then the cost quickly go to R30k.

Same with a RB. R10k is the motor. But do do a complete conversion properly I think you'll be looking at R50k min.

Right now I'm contemplating just dropping in an import. R6500 and I get to have a complete spare motor that is still functioning just fine.

How many have used import motors and what have your experiences been? Please do list how much you paid for it and which engine importer you bought it from.

rat · Post by **rat** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:10 pm

veecee wrote:
rat wrote:but it will last another 300000kms
thats what so many people say, and it really isnt true.

i know so many people who've rebuilt motors and they dont last 50 000km's!!!

hahaha - i know some people who couldn't even finish the run-in period!!!

if you hammer it around a track it wont

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:14 pm

even if you hammer it around a track, it should last.

then its built right.

you hammer yours around the street right, its safer to do it on a track YO!

rat · Post by **rat** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:19 pm

my right foot is a hammer unless it is raining then it turns into a soft piece of cotton wool

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:32 pm

DoctorG wrote:Rebuilds that don't last must be either a bad build or improper engineering.

If done right it should be if nothing else reliable.

But the fact of the matter is yes it seems expensive. Then again, if you threw in some forged internals, work the head, do the cams etc then the cost quickly go to R30k.

Same with a RB. R10k is the motor. But do do a complete conversion properly I think you'll be looking at R50k min.

Right now I'm contemplating just dropping in an import. R6500 and I get to have a complete spare motor that is still functioning just fine.

How many have used import motors and what have your experiences been? Please do list how much you paid for it and which engine importer you bought it from.

i guess it depends on the motor - i got a great deal on mine, but it definitely needed a rebuild. you saw the condition of the thing, and the number of missing parts.

hey G - call me. i know of a great deal on an SR20det and gearbox. very close to the price i paid for mine, and the dude says its in running condition.

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:53 pm

you see - i got confused already!!!

damn you doctors!!!

i thought i was talking to the dude with the awesome red sx in his avatar!

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:55 pm

ACTUALLY - i just thought about it.

G got hold of me today saying that his account had been deactivated for some reason.

he must've reregistered with a similar name, and therefore i reckon its the same dude, K?.

K!

rat · Post by **rat** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:01 pm

k kool

Daniel · Post by **Daniel** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:31 am

How many have used import motors and what have your experiences been? Please do list how much you paid for it and which engine importer you bought it from.

I did, Paid R5750 at the time from...er..TV2 in PTA i tink, cant remember
Did i minor refresh, basically only crank seals and a new water pump.
It worked *perfectly for 27 000km, then my rad blocked and my numb nut friend said it was the HG and did a piss poor HG swap...twice. Its not so perfect now, but i blame the wanabe mechanic.

*3 coils from the import motor did die

DoctorG · Post by **DoctorG** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:41 am

Aha. Daniel that's what I suspected.

I reckon a decent import motor with <100k on it is probably a good buy.

My current logic is to drop in an import as:

it's cost effective
it's a straight swap
no need for aftermarket EMS
get to have a spare motor

Then run it for say a year while I take the time to rebuild the original motor properly with forged internals and all the proper bits and bobs to make a reliable 250wkw all day long.

Then, swap back the oem motor, and keep the import for spares