Camber, Castor and Toe.

HancoB · Post by **HancoB** » Fri May 09, 2008 10:08 am

Why dont you e-mail this guys and ask about his tire wear...

Looks like he is running some mad ass negative camber!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCCbp734UcI

What Mario has said here is right. When running negative camber you gain more cornering grip and thus more cornering speed. On a straight line the tire will wear on the inside after a considerable amount of burnouts. But the one thing Mario forgot that with narrow tires you dont get such bad tire wear.(some thing to do with the sidewall, VC might help me right here)

If you are not sure...Go to any leading wheel alignment shop and they will tell you!

Gary57 · Post by **Gary57** » Fri May 09, 2008 11:44 am

I think you guys are missing the point here. On my SX with 225 45 R17 Toyo T1R's I get no tyre wear what so ever. I am not doing burn outs or draging so that has no effect. Tyre pressure is set to 2.2bar on the front and 2bar on the rear.

I agree if I were running loads of camber with a low profile and lots of pressure then yes I might wear the inside on the tyre, BUT I am not doing this. I have run this much camber on my car for over 2 year with NO uneven tyre wear what so ever.

I posted this topic to get some info on how to get my sx to handle a bit better, mainly get more grip up front. Yet I get 2 or 3 decent posts (thanks guys) and rest is just jabber from the peanut gallery. Bottom line is with the amount of negetive camber I said I get NO uneven tyre wear, so why are you guys trying to tell me I am??

HancoB · Post by **HancoB** » Fri May 09, 2008 11:50 am

Stupid question then. Go to Tiger wheel and tire and ask them what would be best to run on? Most grip and wada wada wada. Then come back to us and tell us then. Those guys have been doing alignment for how long now????

We dont work in a tire fitting shop. We drive sx'es and enjoy them! FROM THE PEANUT GALLERY!!!!!

HancoB · Post by **HancoB** » Fri May 09, 2008 11:54 am

mario_200sx · Post by **mario_200sx** » Fri May 09, 2008 11:56 am

Hanco, play nice!

Well Gary I just informed you on the effects, and you told me it does not cause wear! Then I just helped you by giving you facts that it does cause wear.

I never said that your car does have uneven wear, but with the specs your giving us here, too my knowledge it would. Same as you said with the BMW, and you were wrong. And I can bet you, you would be wrong about the beach buggy too.

I was just helping here, bringing forward the correct information and negative effects..... FROM THE PEANUT GALLERY

HancoB · Post by **HancoB** » Fri May 09, 2008 12:02 pm

Naa man, I was playing nice. I just saw the joke in it. Life cant be all that serious!

Gary57 · Post by **Gary57** » Fri May 09, 2008 12:10 pm

Again I bet the BMW's that are getting wear the wheel alignment is not to factory spec anyways. My uncle used to work at a BMW stealership and said the only time they experianced wear was when they had too much camber, stock it never wore tyres. When people lower these BM's they increase the camber and wear the insides.

You guys said it will cause uneven tyre wear, but it doesnt I have the proof on my car right now. Yes if I run too much camber then I will get wear but I am not and this is a road car.

Just check the manual and front camber should be -1.25 - +5degrees, so at 1.25 degrees would it wear the inside of the tyres?? The rears are -1.5 - -0.5degrees, did the stock sx wear the inside of the tyres?? So can we say camber does not wear the tyres unevenly but excessive camber does?? I am not even 0.5degrees more and hence no uneven tyre wear.

mario_200sx · Post by **mario_200sx** » Fri May 09, 2008 12:15 pm

Dude, just do what YOU think is right.

ALL IM SAYING: and this is not to you Gary, cause you think all of this was. ( I state again, I never said your tyres run uneven. So stop jabbing about your cars camber.) I'm only stating the facts here......

Before anybody goes and do the camber and toe. Go do research on it, because the is negative affects involved by doing it.

Gary57 · Post by **Gary57** » Fri May 09, 2008 12:17 pm

An extra 0.5degrees will move the top of my tyre 5.5mm or so, just a thought.

BTW does anyone know if the stock camber adjustment actually work, I dont even think I have the little tabs.

mario_200sx · Post by **mario_200sx** » Fri May 09, 2008 12:18 pm

Chop!

Gary57 · Post by **Gary57** » Fri May 09, 2008 12:21 pm

Chop!

???????

mario_200sx · Post by **mario_200sx** » Fri May 09, 2008 12:27 pm

Cant help it if you got a reading problem.... Stop taking offence of everything. My comments about the negative effects wasnt even aimed at you but you made a scene.....

A forum is about gathering info..... Thats all I have to say about this topic.

Use it, dont use it.

PS. I do have a few years of racing knowledge and setting up racing cars.
How did you put it? JUST A THOUGHT

Gary57 · Post by **Gary57** » Fri May 09, 2008 12:32 pm

I know they werent aimed at me nor do I have a reading problem.

1.5 - 1.75 is still a big enough diff to make the tyres wear uneven.

But yet I am running this on my car with no problem.... hmm. Yes maybe in another application it is enough to cause uneven wear BUT on MY sx it isnt.

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Fri May 09, 2008 1:42 pm

jussus you girlpantzes can argue over petty shit.

who gives a crap about a little extra tire wear when you have better grip???

honestly!

mario - take it easy man. dont make me go and delete posts again!

Gary57 · Post by **Gary57** » Fri May 09, 2008 2:04 pm

HEHE yeah VC you probably right.

Lets agree to disagree and get on with it

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