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my CA18det is RETARDED

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:11 pm
by veecee
my CA18det is RETARDED!!!

bruno had a little argument about which way the cam angle sensor has to be turned to advance/retard the timing of the ca18det.

in the end i tend to believe what he says, but i want to hear from other technically minded people too.

i am 100% sure that i got the timing marks on the crank pulley right. they read in a clockwise orientation from -5 to 20 degrees in 5 degree increments. is that right???

then when setting the timing, if i need to advance the timing do i turn the CAS clockwise, or do i turn the CAS anti-clockwise???

i want to cure my ca18det of its "possible" RETARDEDNESSISM!!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:38 pm
by veecee
these are pics from the manual:

this shows the method to advance/retard
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this shows the timing marks on the crank
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i thought i had these correct but my CAS position looks retarded - so guess who is really the retarded one!?!?!?!?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:39 pm
by Hennie Marais
best way is to adjust it with a timing light, I had a issue with CAS once. Couldn't get the damm timing right. So to be on the safe side, slap a timing light on there and adjust accordingly.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:39 pm
by Gary57
if you want to advance the timing you turn the CAS anti clockwise.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:42 pm
by veecee
i did it with a timing light.

but the position of the CAS looks retarded compared to most others that i've seen out there!!!

thanks G.

i reckon the relative position of the bolts can also stuff ppl around!!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:53 pm
by Hennie Marais
ye, never work on the bolts, Mine was correctly installed (there is only one way except if the "halfmaan" on the shaft has broken off.) and I could get it to 15deg, mine was around 20deg with the CAS fully to one side. I just replaced the CAS and it was perfect. They say the disk/plate inside the CAS comes loose and moves.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:55 pm
by veecee
can i open it to check.

i know ppl open them to replace the disk when installing aftermarket ecu's, but it would be nice to be able to check mine before coughing up hte big bucks!!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:03 pm
by Hennie Marais
yes you can, Mine was not loose so that I could turn it by hand, but just watch out not to damage the sensor inside.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:04 pm
by Hennie Marais
You also check the bearings in it then, I replaced mine because it was not so smooth anymore.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:15 pm
by widowmaker
ok thanks for the info people
i have just checked my timing with a timing light during lunchbreak

now, how do you get the timing light's cables out after they wound themselves around the waterpump axle and into the waterpump bearing?
also, does anyone have a fan for me with all the blades intact?
and some band-aids please

is it retarded now?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:12 pm
by veecee
i guess so...

when you do patch up your arms with bandaids, and fix the waterpump with molten lead, maybe you will realise that its actually...

POOZA-THUZDAY!!!!

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:23 pm
by widowmaker
sounds like fun!

btw, have you checked this website?
http://www.dotonthehorizon.com

:?:

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:24 pm
by veecee
hmmm...

i detect sabotage, seems dangerous...

what does it have to do with retarded CA18DET's???

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:28 pm
by widowmaker
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that website takes me there every time
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:50 pm
by veecee
try to find the horizon:

http://www.vaiavanti.com/