Nissan 200SX Club - South Africa

hey guys im thinking of installing a deastek unichip has anyone had experience with these are they any good and who the best berson to go to in durban to get itfitted

Go stand alone mang.

muny scarce atm had to buy complete new set of shocks for cab

stand alone's are great but u lose all the stock functions, AC control cold start etc etc..... of coarse it could be sorted out tho, but depends what u want to use the car for

Ero_sennin wrote:stand alone's are great but u lose all the stock functions, AC control cold start etc etc..... of coarse it could be sorted out tho, but depends what u want to use the car for

just normal driving with that lil bit extra for now and then

Speak to Gary. I think her might still even have one for you.

It is quite good, the newer version can even manage electronic boost and all and all and all.....it's as close as you can get to standalone management without loosing all the stock pieces.

Another Sx bites the Dust!!!

I helped remove two uni-chips last year, Its always the same story after they installed the uni-chip there was always issues with idling, Cold Start or warn start, fuel economy and power. I don’t see why anyone would even consider running a piggy back when there are full control systems like “Nistune” for the same price.

I don’t care if it’s a Q or what ever I have never liked them, And I never will most tuning company tend to avoid them unless sponsored by Dustek for example the guys the tune the Ford ST225 like to use the Blue-Fin or Dream science stuff the same with VW and seat. I have spoken long and hard to guys that swear by Uni-chips and one thing keeps coming they are used primarily on race cars like in the production car series where Idle, Fuel Economy is not of primary concern.

As for the boost control and launch control plus wireless maps (why the F$ck would you need that) there an old say that goes “You can put sprinkles on a piece of Sh#t but at the end of the day its still a piece of sh%t “

WOW.....this is the first I am hearing about this, I guess me and Freddy was lucky!!!!!!


Poizen, I guess then all I can recommend is stand alone, less electrical issues and it gets rid of all the "restrictions" we have like AFM and and and where most of our problems start.

If I can recommend one, I spoke long with a well known tuner in PTA and he recommended Dicktator, espescially if you want a car for normal driving aswell, aperantly between most of them dicktator is the only one where you can check the millisecond between the timing and fuel, get it closer and get fuel ifficiancy the best.

Was wondering when u were going to say something pinkfluff

Electronic boost control in my opinion is brilliant.While you twiddle your knob to increase boost and ignore all other maps, one flick of a switch not only changes the boost but sorts out the correct fuel, timing etc maps making sure you don't run lean or whatever
I cant speak for or against piggy back systems as I'm no expert.

I do agree with you on one thing, in theory the nistune system does look brilliant, and if I was using the stock management and motor I would probably go this route too, keeping all your sensors extra stock functions is really a huge bonus.

Although if you want to have a stockish drive, economy etc etc, have a basic map then when you want to go to the track and run 1 or 2 bar boost flip the switch and your fueling etc is sorted out. So thats why the fuck someone would need something like that.

I for one don't think it is such a good idea driving around on your highest setting or boost or whatever, for many reasons, fuel economy, driveability, bla bla bla

It all depends on what and how you use your car, and of coarse your budget, yes there are different options and each option need to be explored to see what suits your needs better. There is also the issue of having your chosen system tuned, not every one has the knowledge or equipment of tuning it themselves and there needs to be local support for what you want to go for, you take your nistune system to a tuner they are most likely going to look at you with a blank expression on their faces.

The nistune system might fit your needs perfectly where the unichip doesn't but there is no need to come out swearing and slamming something down so blatantly but ok you seem to be an expert on this after removing an amount of two unichips. Good luck

How about you just load the map with the increase fueling and decreased timing into you NIStune system for example?

It take's all of I don’t know 5 seconds, then adjust your boost by any means you want. But it like I said if you went through my post one feature like adjustable maps is kind of cool but it doesn’t help if the thing is giving you problems. I mean there are two members on this forum that I know personally have had Uni-chips removed from there cars and will never go back. I know of 3 guys with Sti’s that have had them removed last year. I know of two Opel guys and on ford guy that have had one removed all gaining extra power and fuel economy.

Its clear to me that fooling the ECU or intercepting its signals is not the way to go also like the argument I had with Veecee you are the best tuner for your car stop being cheap and get yourself a Nice Wideband and a knock-link and a good management system most people just don’t want to take the responsibility of tuning they want to blame someone if things go wrong like you said most don’t have the knowledge but they want to fit exhaust systems, Cone’s, intercoolers then they seam to have the knowledge and know better then Nissan it kind of funny.

It all boils down to taking the plunge and learning for yourself But also taking the responsibility and living with the fact that you might screw-up and kill your motor if you cant deal with that then take it to a reputable tuner one that knows the motor not some “Dasteh’ installer that see’s 10 cars a day take it to Rezlo or any reputable shop but most people don’t because good tuners with guarantee’s cost a lot of money we look for the cheap guys and then a quick fix’s to solve our suspected issues then complain when it all goes wrong.

I see the Uni-chip as a quick fix because that is really all it is, its not true stand alone it’s not as programmable it has been know it give issues. You cant keep stable AFR on bigger injectors or Air flow meters, you cant precisely specify the fueling or timing curve’s, I have traced the wiring maybe in later models this is not the case but all the uni-chips I have see fitted to S13 and STI’s don’t intercept the injector pulse or coil pulse so they cant control the timing or fueling a 100% and do you really want Some tuner guessing the timing curve or increase or decreasing you temp to get your fuel curve nice on you Turbo car. rue the newer Uni-chips can intercept Lambda but guess what the S13 doesn’t have one

I'm afraid I have to agree with PFB on this one.

My car used to be fitted with a unichip that was fortunately removed - I truly believe that it is part of the reason why my car's motor was f&cked when I bought it.

All I wil say is that if you gonna go for a unichip - then make damn sure it is installed correctly and tuned correctly. Any balls up here is gonna cost big $$ in the future. I am STILL paying for the mistakes of previous assholes - my car is still not 100% and I've only been able to drive about a 1000 km since I bought it in April last year.

With my first proper paycheck I'm ordering a nistune. Don't take my word for it but start doing some research into what you want and how much you wanna spend - then you'll know.

Poizen - there is a saying: "goedkoop koop is duur koop". You asked the for advice, so here is mine:

If money is tight at the moment, then DON'T BUY ANYTHING and wait until you can afford the system the YOU WANT.

I know at least 5 people who have installed unichips and are happy. It's besides the point, different experiences, different tuners, cars etc..... It's no good using that as an argument.

Can the nistune system swap maps with out the need of a laptop by lets say o a button? If so this would be a very good system then.
If not carrying around a laptop just to load a map sounds like a huge schlep as you never know when you might want to change maps even while driving around and not everyone will be comfortable or know how to change this. My point is just systems are different and have different uses for different needs eg. some even offer 2 maps by just flicking a switch even if you are driving and changes over to a totally different setup, fuel, timing boost etc..

At the end of the day we all have our own opinions but we should make up our own minds with research from various sources based on what we require and our experiences but it really confuses the situation if some one asks for advice and someone jumps out slamming something in a very blazing manor. I think stating the pro's and con's of different systems would be a much better solution and much more informative.

In a few short sentences Enzio has made a very good point, I totally agree.

PFB....you may be right I don't know....I first heard about this when you braught it up, great...you know of 5 people....do you know how many unichips have been installed.....thousands.....more....you know of 5 unsatisfied people.....any brand, any where can deliver 5 or even more disatisfied people.....I bet you could find 100 dissatisfied people....you could find 2000 satisfied....

All I can say is the tuner has alot to do with the installation and tuning, I hated that my car was on the dyna for 3 straight hours while tuning, I will even say I did not like the tuner(company) that installed and tuned my car but one thing is for sure, they did it right, I could drive to witbank and back with 1/4 tank keeping it on 120km/h.

This whole story is as simple as this....was it done right....was it installed right....untill that can without a doubt be said that it was....then only would I say look at the chip.

recommend what you want, lift your opinion, give the reason.... as simple as that....

Well it is a Forum your opinion, No mater how Illogical it might seem to me

The fact is people are not keen to listen there minds are made up before they post and Im not talking about the topic creators but I always find myself staring at a post on this forum about to comment and go why do I care to because it will go down the same street every time. Why waste my time if he wants to go this route no amount of logic will help him there is a saying that goes when “knowledge is lacking everyone is an Expert.”

I know more about the Ca18 stock management system and how it works then the guys arguing in this topic, it’s a bold statement but it’s the truth and I’m not blowing my horn, I have seen how the Uni-chip interface’s with it and I can tell you its not optima at all for the amount of money you are spending you will have better control with other systems but stick with you Uni’s do what you feel is right it doesn’t bother me anymore.