S14 RB25

HancoB · Post by **HancoB** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:41 pm

ljS14 wrote:These are the standared size Brembo disks,Will the Z33 calipers fit and are they available?

They cost a pretty penny and the pads also costs a arm and a leg. As far as I know they do fit but spacer plates need to be made up.

Deon aka D aka Ready D has them on his white s13. They look so HAWT!!!

I think your best option would still be to powder coat them.

Riekert · Post by **Riekert** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:38 am

Agreed powder coating is the way to go!

RAW · Post by **RAW** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:27 am

No point in using z33 calipers, it will be of zero benefit besides color and youll need to re-machine the hub to make them work on the S14/Z32 disks as they are smaller than Z33 disks in over all diameter... only if you go smaller to larger disks can you use a spacer to space the caliper further out...

Also powder coating will not withstand the heat of the braking system, powerkote is the only real option, you can look at easily R3000 to do it because the calipers have to be fully rebuilt after because you have to strip them right apart to kote.

Paint on coatings do last semi well IF you prepare it right do it properly and you use good quality stuff.

Riekert · Post by **Riekert** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:44 am

RAW wrote: Also powder coating will not withstand the heat of the braking system, powerkote is the only real option, you can look at easily R3000 to do it because the calipers have to be fully rebuilt after because you have to strip them right apart to kote.

Paint on coatings do last semi well IF you prepare it right do it properly and you use good quality stuff.

Dammit!! why can't anything be cheap in SA!!!

ljS14 · Post by **ljS14** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:48 am

Thanks Raw, I will give them a call and see what they can do for me while they are busy with the brakes.

HancoB · Post by **HancoB** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:36 am

ok ok, thats what I had in mind just missed the spelling a bit.

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:37 pm

i've seen powdercoating used on axle components without any problems. components like spindles, calipers, bracketry, etc...

and powdercoating is around 150-200 for calipers!

RAW · Post by **RAW** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:28 pm

Try it on a car that has any amount of decent power where you make decent brake heat and youll see why powder coating does not last on brake calipers.

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:56 pm

porsche racing cars dont count?

RAW · Post by **RAW** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:42 pm

funny, I wonder why VWAG (porsche, lambo, seat, ectr) spend 6-7 times more using ceramic coatings on their OE color coded calipers when regular powder coating will work?

If the coating has ceramic and alumite it will last, if its regular powder coating (polyester, polyester-epoxy or straight epoxy, as widely available) it will peal off and/or discolour over time, usualy fairly fast. Ceramic/alumite coating are not easily available but are threw companies like powerkote... it is called ceramic coating... and it cost a shit load more than regular powder coating as i pointed out a few posts back.

would you like me to explain further?

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:57 pm

threw or through???

i dont know the exact compound they were using, alll i know is that the calipers and spindles were sent in for powdercoating, and after a year on the track they still looked good.

RAW · Post by **RAW** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:31 am

veecee wrote:threw or through???

i dont know the exact compound they were using, alll i know is that the calipers and spindles were sent in for powdercoating, and after a year on the track they still looked good.

Maybe its time to not worry about other peoples spelling and worry more about giving accurate information that wont waste peoples time, money and be a possible fire risk because your “not exactly sure” but you’ll advise someone to do it anyway…

Riekert · Post by **Riekert** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:33 am

ok ok!! stop the bickering!! again you get what you pay for... the one might be better than the other one but it all depends on what you want to spend. If the cheaper one works for 1 year and the expensive one for 10 its still up to whoever wants to do it. I say go for the cheap one and check what happens...

RAW · Post by **RAW** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:19 pm

remember if you want to try any form of bake on coatings youll need to sandblast the calipers, If you want to do this right you remove the pistons out the calipers, tape it all up, coat, bake then re-assemble, you S13 guys will have a hard time finding the right seals (genuine ones that dont leak) and you have to change the seals when you remove the pistons... so make sure you can get the seals before ripping the calipers apart, I know the S14 ones were kak expencive but available, S13 ones were almost impossible to get the correct ones.

veecee · Post by **veecee** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:24 am

RAW wrote:
veecee wrote: Maybe its time to not worry about other peoples spelling and worry more about giving accurate information that wont waste peoples time, money and be a possible fire risk because your “not exactly sure” but you’ll advise someone to do it anyway…

oh please dude - we're talking about a coating on a set of calipers. its not like the dude wants to install the "fire out of my exhaust" system made up of a sparkplug and an injector at the back of the car???

so if the dude spends 200 bucks powdercoating the caliper, or 3000 bucks ceramic coating the caliper - who has ended up wasting who's time and money?