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sr20det vvt

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:27 pm
by AR 200SX
doe anybody know how the vvt system works on the sr20det vvt motor or s14 motor?

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:49 pm
by veecee
its a hydraulic system, but i guess thats stating the obvious!

do you have the s14 manual?

i have a copy, or you can download it at www.rezlo.com

vvt

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:42 am
by AR 200SX
it's coming from inside the pulley. :?

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:38 pm
by veecee
whats coming inside from the pulley??? :? :?

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:00 am
by 200SX MP
Hey dudes does sr20 fit onto the ca 18 gearbox just curouis thinkking of doing a hart transplant hehehehe :D

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:14 am
by veecee
the bellhousings are different.

but you usually dont find those separate. EISH!

vvt

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:09 pm
by AR 200SX
the knocking noise.

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:37 pm
by Doctor G
What's the mileage on the motor? I've heard that those VVT pulleys start dying around 120k kms. Yes it's hydraulic. New pulley = $$$$. Change it over to a non VVT normal SR20 cam gear pulley or an adjustable one like Greddy etc.

Here's a comment taken from another forum to back up this statement and also a "how to" test which should tell you if it's your sprocket for sure:

"It's the notorious S14 SR20DET VVT cam sprocket rattle. Very common in S14 SR20DET's. My motor makes the same exact noise. Sounds like a Mercedes-Benz Diesel? It's making that noise because the intake cam sprocket is advancing and retarding itself between 1,500 to 5,000 rpm.

You've already answered your own question, you said when the solenoid is disconnected, the sound goes away but you lose low end torque. Which is exactly what's suppose to happen.

With everything still connected, rattle and all.. Push in the clutch, pop it into first gear and blip the throttle, noise go away? If so, it's your VVT sprocket. Theres not much info on here about the rattle but if you do some research over on sxoc.com you'll find all your answers. VERY commmon s14 sr20det problem.

Nissan Part # 13025-65f00 is for the s15 VVT sprocket, if you want to replace it but it's spendy and not a for sure fix, it'll fix it but the noise MIGHT come back later. Only real fix is to eliminate the VVT sprocket all together with either adjustable cam gear or s13 sr20det sprocket, i've heard the sr20de sprocket should work too."

vvt

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:33 pm
by AR 200SX
thanx.does the vvt sprocket advance or retard the inlet cam? and by how much deg?

Re: vvt

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:00 pm
by Doctor G
AR 200SX wrote:thanx.does the vvt sprocket advance or retard the inlet cam? and by how much deg?
No idea. Why do you ask though?

Usually when tuning N/A cars we would close the overlap somewhat to move the powerband. That means Advancing the intake and Retarding the exhaust cam.

So I'm gonna go out on a flyer and say it advances the intake cam. But don't quote me on that.

I did see a very nice picture showing off how the VVT works though but can't seem to find it now.. If I do I'll post it up.

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:10 pm
by Doctor G
From WIKI:

Nissan Variable Cam Timing (commonly known as N-VCT, VCT or NVCS) is an automobile variable valve timing technology developed by Nissan. N-VCT was first introduced in 1987 on the VG30DE engine. N-VCT varies the timing of the valves by rotating the cam shaft(s), valve lift and duration are NOT altered. The system is implemented with an electric solenoid which is controlled by the cars ECU. Some Nissan engines only have N-VCT on the inlet cam (such as the RB25DE/DET) while others have it on both the inlet and exhaust cams.

not to be confused with VVL:


Nissan Ecology Oriented Variable Valve Lift and Timing (commonly known as VVL) is an automobile variable valve timing technology developed by Nissan. VVL varies the timing, duration, and lift of valves by using hydraulic pressure switch between two different sets of camshaft lobes. It functions similarly to Honda's VTEC system.

The SR20VE is the most common engine with NEO VVL. There have been two main versions of this engine. The first version made 187hp and 145lb/ft torque. This engine was used by Nissan from 1997 to 2001. It is found in the Nissan Primera, Nissan Bluebird, and the Nissan Wingroad.

The second variant of the SR20VE is found only in the 2001 and up, P12 Nissan Primera. This version of the SR20VE makes 204hp, and 152lb/ft torque. This engine is commonly known as the SR20VE '20V'. Although, in automotive terms, '20V' would normally be interpreted as having twenty valves, this is incorrect. The name '20V' is the name of the trim level of the Nissan Primera that it is found in. It is also a shortened version of the name SR20VE. This engine has 16 valves like the rest of the SR20 engines. This newer '20V' engine, is the only SR20 engine to get a restyled valve cover. It also has an upgraded intake manifold, which has longer runners and a larger 70mm throttle body (earlier SR20VE has 60mm).

Another version of the VVL SR engines, is the 1.6L SR16VE. The engine block for the SR16VE is the same as the SR20VE, it also has the same cylinder bore. The crankshaft has a shorter stroke, which lowers the displacement, but allows the engine to safely rev to higher RPM. Although this engine has 1.6L of displacement, it has more aggressive camshaft specifications. It manages to make 173hp. The camshafts from this engine are considered to be an upgrade for SR20VE owners.

From 1997 to 1998, Nissan produced 500 limited edition SR16VE N1 engines. These engines made 197hp. (DrG: Not bad for a N/A 1.6 ey??? :shock: :lol: cough cough honda suck) They had further upgraded camshafts, upgraded intake manifold untilising 8 injectors and a larger 70mm throttle body. These engines were found in the limited edition Nissan Pulsar VZ-R N1. They only sold in Japan.

The most powerful VVL engine so far, is the SR20VET. The SR20VET is a turbocharged '20V' SR20VE. It uses a Garrett GT2560R turbo charger, and makes 280ps (276hp). Nissan's technical information about this engine states that it is 9:1 compression ratio, but it really adds up to 8.8:1. Compaired to the SR20DET (used in the Nissan Silvia, and Bluebird), the SR20VET (aside from having VVL technology) has improved airflow in the cylinder head, higher compression, and also improved coolant passages.

One difference from Honda's VTEC system, is that NEO VVL engages the change of intake and exhaust cams independently. On the SR20VE the intake camshaft is switched at 5000rpm, and the exhaust at 6500rpm. However this trait was not included on the newer '20v' version, as both camshafts engage at the same RPM.