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				Boost Creep Help
				Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:02 pm
				by S14200sx
				Hi everyone.
Hope someone can help me with this one! I have a Profec b spec 2 boost controller and no matter what i try i can not stop the boost from creeping up.I have disconected the wastegate actuator to see if it hepls but it still creeps! Any ideas would be great.
Thanks 
Gerrit
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:04 pm
				by Gary57
				Has it only started to creep since you fitted the ProfecB?? Try lowering the gain.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:17 pm
				by S14200sx
				no the boost has been doing this from the begining, the car was rebuilt so everything is new still running standard ecu and injectors other than that everything alse has been done.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:26 pm
				by Gary57
				Is your actuator adjustable??
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:45 pm
				by S14200sx
				no the actuator is not ajustable, but i have tried disconecting it to see if it would stop when the flap is fully open but it goes to about 0.1 bar at 4000rpm and then climbs to 0.95 bar at 7000rpm
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:01 pm
				by Phinx
				Hay S14200sx 
Sorry for asking but what turbo are you using?
Do you know the size of the exhuast housing? 
Becuase if you jammed the wastegate open and you are still over boosting it sounds like the gasses might be building up to much presure before the turbo or that the exhuast wheel is just allowing them to flow through with less resistance then just going through the wastgate.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:02 pm
				by Charlvdw
				What size is that turbo?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:13 pm
				by S14200sx
				It is a GT2871R with .64 housing internally gated
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:14 pm
				by Gary57
				I had that same issue and had to get the wastegate port made bigger on my turbo.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:39 pm
				by S14200sx
				Thanks Gary57
From what i have read on the net it seem there are 2 options one is to port the gate and if that does not work to use an external WG.Did the porting sort your problem out completely?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:42 pm
				by Phinx
				Its Strange that it would do that with a GT2871R with .64 housing. 
But I would agree, Try Porting it 
Or External WG
Off topic :  Damn nice turbo you have there
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:47 pm
				by S14200sx
				Thanks
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:58 pm
				by Gary57
				Yes 100%, if I opened the gate with the actuator off I could still boost over 1 bar. The port was 28mm and I got it made to 32mm.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:35 pm
				by S14200sx
				Ok thanks.I will port it and hope it works, otherwise it will be the more expensive route of trying to fit an external WG.
			 
			
					
				GT2871R
				Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:09 pm
				by S14200sx
				Ok we ported the wastegate and there is still boost creep,instead of going up to 1 bar with the actuator disconected it now goes up to 0.8.So the lesson is don't use a GT2871R .64 on a modified engine, the exhaust side is far to small to handle all the air its getting from the engine and the compressor.