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Tappity noise on startup
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:12 am
by Hype
Howdy all
My friends car makes a tappity noise on startup, does it for about 20seconds then goes away.
He has been told its oil not getting to the tappits quick enough.
Is this true? What could be the causes of thise? Is it an easy fix?
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:20 am
by Gary57
Are you sure it is noisy tappets or piston slap??
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:26 am
by Vlade
check your oil level... my Polo does that when oil level is low....
Otherwize it can be that your oil is very thick when its cold... maybe using wrong Weight.
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:26 am
by jon
Sounds about right, check the past threads for the "Oil" thread.
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:30 am
by Speed breeder
Sounds like lifters...
Replacing lifters is also like 1.5 hours work.
They do get sticky after a while.
What car?
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:37 am
by Hype
Thanks for the replies
Its an S14 SR20DET
Using Castrol Edge Fully Synthetic in the engine
How much is one looking at to replace the lifters?
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:59 am
by Speed breeder
Little bit more time for car with chain and DOHC. Look at between R30-R45 a lifter...
I must admit I haven't ever priced a SR20DET's lifters...
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:06 am
by Hype
Thank you
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:48 pm
by Sokar
Speed breeder wrote:Little bit more time for car with chain and DOHC. Look at between R30-R45 a lifter...
I must admit I haven't ever priced a SR20DET's lifters...
Also a note, the SR only has 8 lifters total, 4 per side.
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:19 pm
by Riekert
My dads SR also makes that tapping sound.
Its not a SX but is still goes for a fwd 2l
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:26 pm
by johansx
Sure its not the std VVT rattle ? Higher mileage black tops does that.
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:24 pm
by Toby
Speed breeder wrote:Little bit more time for car with chain and DOHC. Look at between R30-R45 a lifter...
SR20DET lifters are around...
wait for it...
R550 PER lifter! Yes, I kid you not. Jarred spent about 6 months to a year trying to source cheap lifters for his S14 - the cheapest were R550 per lifter. However, Nismo200sx managed to source some a little bit cheaper.
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:42 pm
by 200SX MP
Iwont replace them if they are noisy at start up coes when the car stands over night all the oil gets out of the lifters and when u start it they are noisy but if they keep on making noise then i will sugest replacing them
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:42 am
by Sokar
Toby wrote:Speed breeder wrote:Little bit more time for car with chain and DOHC. Look at between R30-R45 a lifter...
SR20DET lifters are around...
wait for it...
R550 PER lifter! Yes, I kid you not. Jarred spent about 6 months to a year trying to source cheap lifters for his S14 - the cheapest were R550 per lifter. However, Nismo200sx managed to source some a little bit cheaper.
Snail did mine for R80 per lifter, and that was with his extra cost added....
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:35 pm
by johansx
The oil is not supposed to drain completely from the system. Some OEM filter have a non-return valve to stop just that. Not sure on the SR and the CA. Maybe I should buy a OEM filter again...
I flushed my SR engine over the weekend to get rid of the crap oil that Maus must have used to top up after the turbo drain pipe broke off. Id did not mix well with the synthetic oil. Made thick blobs (not quite sure how to describe it) and it was a mess to clean by hand. 4L diesel and idle for 1 minute and it is all clean and flushed. Even after a couple hundred km the oil is still clean.