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Drifting Suspension and other tricks

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Oky, so maybe we can share some of our basic tips for the drifting?
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Ok, so a few tricks ive found out savar, on S13:

On your ride height, You need 2.5cm + - Diff from front and back, The front higher, Cant remember exactly what the reasoning was behind it.

On the front you need to pull a bit of caster, The car will be more unstable, but more stable in a drift.

I heard from a few guys that you need toe out in the front, and no toe at the back.

also about 2 deg camber at the front, but no camber at the back on slow tracks, and a bit of camber on fast tracks.

Then, we have always thought hard suspension is the way to go, Aparently not, you need a bit of give, but no body roll, this is for the "fly", ie if you are hard on the trottle and the car is squating, you lift of in a switch, the car will shoot forward with more momentum.

also that helps alot, if you can make your nose as wide as posible, also stability in drift is much better.
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I run those setting but my front to rear height diff is about the same, I'd imagine the difference is to transfer as much weight to the driven wheels for more grip (just like drag racing) as drifting needs grip.

Front is toe'd out with 4 degree neg camber and rear 0.3 neg camber (promotes even tyre wear better than 0 degree on the outer wheel which gets the most use as when you are sideways you get tyre wall flex and suspension movement which in theory makes the wheel sit at 0 when sideways), 0 toe on rear too.

As for the spring rates it is right, having the suspension allow movement allows for the car to shoot forward and is what makes lower powered cars run with higher powered cars because they can run less angle throughout the course (squating the rear on full power) then on the last corner they have so much momentum when they come off the power the end up shooting forward and can have as much (if not more) angel and speed as front runner car and makes for a better run when taking the power difference into consideration if the rest of the run was good.
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Thx for the input! anyone else? we not only 2 drifters on here?
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What it is for the height is to get the ass down for grip kinda like a drag car..

Iv found with my car the on the damper being 2 clicks softer in the rear helps me...

My height is set on tein recommended settings and the ass end is lower then the front.. Not sure by how much will have a look later

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awesome thread!

i'll contribute my limited knowledge as soon as im sober

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DriftZ wrote:awesome thread!

i'll contribute my limited knowledge as soon as im sober
So next week thursday we should expect it ;-) hahahahaha

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sweet, ill be glad if this can help someone!

Last thing, i am going to do a full suspension kit on my car soon, cant wait, will be all suspension arms including new hubs in the front, looking at 80+ degrees of stering angle...
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Have you seen those geonuckles??

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80 degrees? Wisefab kit I take it?
You don't need so much lock.
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He wants to turn like a forklift hahahaha..

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yep wisefab kit, but they expensive as hell....

there is a cheaper way to get close to that angle...

i wants it, wanna do reverse entry's often :P
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Power is nothing without control,
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Traction is over rated. :twisted:

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Looks like a very nice kit hey...

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Thing is you don't need the wisefab kit or massive lock to do backwards entries...I've been learning the fundamentals of it. And if I can get some track time with the right type of corner to make it safe to practice ill nail it in a couple of days
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